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Sabah Crisis Timeline: Lost Sovereignty, Rental Money, RP’s Third World ‘Empire’ and Pinoy Useful Idiots

March 8, 2013
SABAH CRISIS LATEST: Malaysia says clashes between intruding Filipino militants and its security forces have left 60 people dead - 52 militants, 8 policemen. (AFP Photo)

SABAH CRISIS LATEST: Malaysia says clashes between intruding Filipino militants and its security forces have left 60 people dead – 52 militants, 8 policemen. (AFP Photo)

A lot of Filipinos believe that the Philippine government must strongly assert its territorial claim on Sabah to the extent of preparing for a possible military campaign against our neighboring Malaysia, which annexed Sabah to its national territory through a self-determination vote in 1963.

Some of these misguided Filipino imperialists naively believe that the self-proclaimed Sultan of Sulu still exercises absolute sovereign rule over his alleged territories. Some rely on the questionable wisdom of former Senator Jovito Salonga, who somehow believed we have the absolute authority and power to deny the Sabahans of their right to self-determination because of our alleged historical claim on the disputed territory. In his March 30, 1963 rebuttal speech, Salonga challenged his fellow Senator Lorenzo Sumulong who asserted in a privileged speech that “North Borneo is not a part of the national territory of the Philippines as defined and delimited in our Constitution.”

Salonga, a self-styled Filipino nationalist, narrated how north Borneo, now known as Sabah, which was originally ruled by the Sultan of Brunei, became part of Sulu Sultan’s sovereign territory. First, Sabah was given as a gift to the Sulu Sultan. Then it was rented to a number of entities. Today the self-proclaimed Sultan of Sulu Jamalul D. Kiram III has been claiming that the disputed land is his personal private property.

Salonga argued that the Filipinos’ claim is mainly based on the following propositions: “that [Austrian adventurer Baron] de Overbeck and [English merchant Alfred] Dent, not being sovereign entities nor representing sovereign entities, could not and did not acquire dominion and sovereignty over North Borneo; that on the basis of authoritative British and Spanish documents, the British North Borneo Company, a private trading concern to whom Dent transferred his rights, did not and could not acquire dominion and sovereignty over North Borneo; that their rights were as those indicated in the basic contract, namely, that of a lessee and a mere delegate; that in accordance with established precedents in International Law, the assertion of sovereign rights by the British Crown in 1946, in complete disregard of the contract of 1878 and their solemn commitments, did not and cannot produce legal results in the form of a new tide.”

Salonga also confirmed that “the heirs of the Sultan could not possibly litigate before the International Court of Justice for the simple reason that they have no international legal personality.” This means that the current heirs of the Sultan, including Jamalul D. Kiram III, do not possess absolute sovereign powers.

Definitely, Salonga’s argument that Sabah is part of the Philippine territory is without any historical, legal and even moral basis. The truth is, like the Filipinos and Asian people and tribes, the Sabahans were entitled to their right to self-determination. In the first place, the Sulu Sultan lost- or gave up- his temporal sovereignty in 1915 through an agreement with governor of Mindanao Frank Carpenter.

Ironically, Kiram III will not even categorically say Sabah is part of the Philippine territory. What’s very clear is that he’s fighting for his alleged private property and that his Sabah claim is purely a personal issue.

It appears that this is all about money. It’s all about rent dollar and political power. Since it’s pretty clear the Kirams can no longer reclaim their alleged lost property (I’m sure they know it), their warmongering actions were merely initiated to pressure Malaysia to increase their rental payment.

This issue should be about the Sabahans’ right to determine their fate, national identity, rights and future. They voted to be part of Malaysia. Salonga and many other Filipino little brown imperialists should respect the Sabahans’ rights and collective decision.

However, what is pretty clear is that Kiram III, who declared a unilateral ceasefire, sent his own men to Sabah, Malaysia to fight and die for him. The Philippine government should never condone the illegal actions of this warmongering tribal royalist.

Now Kiram’s wife, Celia, revealed in a radio interview that the sultan wrote to the United Nations about Sabah, which she identified as “not the Kiram property alone [but] the patrimony of the Filipino people… of the Tausug people and of the whole Sultanate of Sulu.”

You may read the UN statement here.

Why the sudden change of heart? The truth is, Kiram III unilaterally revoked the resolution of August 1962 concerning the transfer of title and sovereignty to the Republic of the Philippines. This shows that the self-proclaimed sultan has been very consistent with his actions and words in that he never considered Sabah to be part of the Philippine territory. 

IMHO, Malaysia should have stopped paying rent to the Kiram family since 1963 when the Sabahans voted to be part of Malaysia.

Here’s a friendly advice to pinoy useful idiots who want to reclaim Sabah from Malaysia: join the self-proclaimed sultan’s private army or donate money to his family. Join the primitive royalist’s mission to invade Sabah and be prepared to die for him and his cause.

You may view how the self-proclaimed sultan’s pinoy useful idiot supporters think herehere, and here.

Meanwhile, the following presents the historical timeline of the Sabah crisis.

1640: Understanding the Sabah Crisis

The Sabah stand-off spans centuries of dispute. In this timeline, we will offer a bit of the Sabah history and events that led to the “Battle for Sabah” that we witnessed over the past few weeks. We start with this history. In the 1640s, the independence of the sultanates of Sulu and Maguindanao were recognized by a treaty brokered by the Spaniards.The Sultan of Sulu became the sovereign ruler of most of Sabah, which was then known as North Borneo. From 1894-1936, Sultan Jamalul Kiram II, from whom Sultan Jamalul Kiram III is directly descended, ruled the Sultanate of Sulu.

1898 — 1915: Fall From Political Power

It was during his rule that Spain ceded the Philippines to the United States through the Treaty of Paris in 1898. The treaty lines did not include Sabah. In 1915, the governor of Mindanao Frank Carpenter and the Sulu sultan signed an agreement relinquishing the Sultanate’s temporal sovereignty, tax collection and arbitration laws in Sulu. The Sultan agreed to receive an allowance, a piece of land and gave up his political power to become a religious leader.

June 11, 1936 — 1961: Succession and Claims

The death of Sultan Jamalul Kiram II in June 11, 1936 led to a question of the perpetuation of the Sultanate. His brother, Sultan Muwallil Wasit succeeded him but died before he was crowned. In 1957, Filipino Muslims urged President Ramon Magsaysay to ask the British, which had annexed North Borneo as a crown colony, for the return of Sabah to the Philippines. Magsaysay did not act on the claim. It was President Diosdado Macapagal who initiated the filing of the Philippine claim on Sabah in 1961. The following year, Vice-President Emmanuel Pelaez raised the issue to the U.S., addressing the General Assembly and asking help in effecting a peaceful resolution.

Line of succession of the Sultans of Sulu of the Modern Era*

Line of succession of the Sultans of Sulu of the Modern Era*

1977 — 1987: Giving up Sabah and Claiming it Again

In August 4, 1977, Marcos announced that the Philippines was giving up its claim to Sabah in order “to eliminate of the burdens of ASEAN.” But the accord that would put this in writing was not signed because Malaysia wanted

RP's dictator Ferdinand Marcos

RP’s dictator Ferdinand Marcos

legislative amendments, particularly on the constitutional provision on “territories belonging to the Philippines by historic right or legal title.” In November 1982, Malaysia said, “The Philippines has not taken all the necessary steps to delete a clause in its Constitution laying claim to Sabah.” In 1987, President Corazon Aquino suggested that personal claimants to Sabah organize themselves and arrive at a common position. The Malaysian government was said to have given assurance that it was ready and willing to negotiate with the heirs of the Sultan of Sulu in order to settle this matter. The heirs meet Mrs. Aquino in Malacanang except for Jamalul Kiram III, who dissented.

1996 — 2008: The Question of Lease

In 1996, Princess Denchurain Kiram wrote to Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad of Malaysia asking him to increase the lease it pays to US$1M. She also said she was willing to renounce the claim if the Malaysian Government provided a fair settlement. In 2001, Sultan Esmail Kiram II wrote to Prime Minister Mahathir, through President Gloria Macapagal- Arroyo, to ask an increase in the lease fee to $855 million a year. In March 14, 2001, Malaysian authorities reportedly expressed willingness to buy Sabah for $800 million in a deal initiated by heirs of the Sultan of Sulu. In 2002, President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo assured the heirs of the Sultan of Sulu of protection. Arroyo also sent the letter asking for adjustment of rent to Sabah. The Sulu provincial government in Aug. 10, 2008 told Malaysia to Increase annual payment to Jamalul Kiram II to $500 million.

2008 — 2011: Sabah claim pursued

In Aug. 20, 2008, Mrs. Arroyo issued “Guidelines on matters pertaining to North Borneo (Sabah)” which said that all official activity related to Sabah should have Department of Foreign Affairs clearance. In March 10, 2009, Arroyo signed R.A. 9522, amending R.A. 5446, which removes mention of Sabah or North Borneo in the Archipelagic Baselines of the Philippines law. In July 16, 2011, a Supreme Court upheld the baseline law, noting that the Philippine claim over Sabah is retained and can be pursued.

February 12, 2013: Armed Filipinos Land in Sabah

A group of men in army fatigues, believed to be armed, land on the shores of Lahad Datu. Malaysian police cordon area and asks group to surrender and lay down arms.

February 14, 2013 — February 28, 2013: The Negotiations

The Royal Malaysia Police identify armed group as supporters of the “Sulu Sultanate.” The “intruders” are asked to leave peacefully.

February 16, 2013: Militants or Terrorists?

Malaysian Home Minister Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Tun Hussein says group is not militant or a terrorist but supporters of “Sulu Sutan” Jamalul Kiram III.

February 18, 2013: Governments Working Together

Hishammuddin says Malaysia and Philippines working to resolve conflict through diplomacy.

February 24, 2013: Mercy Ships

Philippines sends a mercy ship to Malaysia to fetch rebels who would like to go home. Read the full story.

February 26, 2013: Aquino Warns Suluks

Philippines President Benigno Aquino issues his first warning to the supporters of the Royal Sultan of Sulu but the rebels refused to heed his calls.Read the full story.

February 27, 2013: Sabah’s Filipinos Remain Defiant

President Aquino’s deadline lapses but the Sulu Sultan’s supporters remain defiant.

February 28, 2013: More Negotiations

The Malaysian government is urged to negotiate directly with a ‘Sultan Jamalul Kiram III’ in Manila to end the conflict of seizing the area in Lahad Datu, Sabah which has prolonged for more than three weeks.

March 2013: First Firefight

Malaysian police drop leaflets to order surrender of Kiram supporters holed up in Lahad Datu. Shots are fired, leaving 12 supporters of Kiram group dead and two Malaysian cops killed.

March 2013: Aquino Takes Stand

Philippine President Benigno Aquino III orders Kiram’s camp to “unconditionally surrender.”

March 2, 2013 — March 4, 2013: Ambush in Semporna

Six Malaysian policemen are killed in an ambush at the ‘water village’ of Kampung Sri Jaya Simunul, Semporna. Six of the armed intruders are also killed in the 8pm incident. Malaysian authorities later reveal that the bodies of the policemen were badly mutilated.Read the full story.

March 4, 2013: Still Hoping For Peace

Philippine Foreign Affairs Under Secretary Jose Brillantes and Philippine Ambassador to Malaysia J. Eduardo Malaya meet Malaysian Defence Minister Dr Ahmad Zahid Hamidi and Home Minister Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Tun Hussein to seek a peaceful resolution.

7:00 AM- March 5, 2013: Airstrikes Launched

Security forces mount operation as they launch attack using F-18 and Hawk fighter jets on Kiram’s group holed up at Kampung Tanduo in Lahad Datu, Sabah, followed by army and police follow-up operations and searches in the village area.

8:00 AM- March 5, 2013: Malaysian PM Speaks

Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak says the government must take appropriate action to protect its dignity and the country’s sovereignty as demanded by the people as the efforts to avoid bloodshed in Lahad Datu are unsuccessful.

11:00 AM- March 5, 2013: Malaysian Military: Ops a Success

In a media conference, Armed Forces Chief Gen Tan Sri Zulkifeli Mod Zin describes the operation, ‘Ops Daulat’, as achieving its objectives.

March 5, 2013 at 1:30 PM: No Malaysian Casualties

Malaysian Home and Defense Ministers say security forces did not suffer any casualties. Read the full story.

4:00 PM- March 5, 2013: Manhunt Continues

Follow-up operations and search conducted due to reported presence of remaning armed group in the area.Read the full story.

Supporters of the self-proclaimed Sultan of Sulu Jamalul Kiram hold a torchlight parade near a mosque in Manila.

Supporters of the self-proclaimed Sultan of Sulu Jamalul Kiram hold a torchlight parade near a mosque in Manila.

March 6, 2013: Stand-off Remains

A supporter of Kiram is shot. Operations continue as 300,000 Malaysian citizens of Suluk descent distance themselves from areas taken by Kiram’s supporters.

March 7, 2013: Extradition Eyed

Malaysia mulls seeking Sultan Kiram’s extradition Read the full story.

March 7, 2013: Unilateral Ceasefire Proposed

In a press conference in Manila, Sulu Sultan Kiram calls for “unilateral ceasefire. “Read the full story.

March 7, 2013: Malaysia Rejects Plea

Malaysia rejects Sulu Sultan Jamalul Kiram III’s ceasefire plea, wanting instead an ‘unconditional surrender’Read the full story.

March 7, 2013: Jamalul Kiram III Prays

Sulu Sultan Jamalul Kiram III, performs doa or prayers, after declaring a unilateral ceasefire or cessation of attacks from Kiram’s followers on Malaysian security forces in Sabah. Kiram’s call follows a statement by United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki Moon, calling for an end to the violence in Sabah, encouraging dialogue among all the parties for a peaceful resolution of the situation.

Filipino Muslim Sultan of Sulu Jamalul Kiram III (2nd-R) prays with his family and supporters in Taguig, Metro Manila March 6, 2013. REUTERS/Erik De Castro (PHILIPPINES)

Filipino Muslim Sultan of Sulu Jamalul Kiram III (2nd-R) prays with his family and supporters in Taguig, Metro Manila March 6, 2013. REUTERS/Erik De Castro (PHILIPPINES)

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22 Comments leave one →
  1. Karma permalink
    March 9, 2013 3:38

    The people of Sabah have made it clear they don’t want any Sultanate of Sulu to b their leader & they DON’T WANT TO BE PART OF THE PHILIPPINES OR CARRYING A FILIPINO PASSPORT, PERIOD. Let us respect their wish as they have voted in a referendum in 1962. This region is finally seeing peace shining bright on it so lets keep it that way. Both governments have worked hard 2 bring stability 4 the Bangsamoro people. There is no need for war. Please leave us alone Kiram & surrender. No more bloodshed!

  2. SinRealm permalink
    March 10, 2013 3:38

    The sad thing is, most Filipinos think that claiming Sabah would solve their problems. But in fact, claiming Sabah would just make things worse. If they take Sabah by force, Malaysians would take it back because UN recognizes them as the rightful owners. So claiming it would just make Sabah a war zone. This country can’t utilize their own natural resources. So what are they going to do with Sabah?

    And that Kiram person. Don’t they find him suspicious that he’s being supported by rebel forces that spent years making a mess in the Philippines?

    I hope UN sanctions this country. That would teach this country a lesson. Their Pinoy Pride must be shattered.

    • Karma permalink
      March 10, 2013 3:38

      You’re spot on about this.

      It’s not like the Philippines doesn’t have natural resources, in fact there are reports that there is a deposit of oil and natural gas found in Mindanao, and it is speculated to be bigger than in Brunei.

      With the recent peace deal signed between your government & the MILF, both parties are hoping that there can be development & economic prosperity in that region.

      Kiram is the black mole here in trying to disrupt this for his own again.

    • maya natsume permalink
      March 14, 2013 3:38

      Maybe, it would be wise to refresh yourself with historical documents. MALAYSIA FEDERATION was born on 16 September 1963. So how could a nation which was not even born gain independence? How could Malaysia say that they gained their independence from the British when the British had technically not ruled the Peninsula since 1957, the year the British gave the Malayans ‘their independence on a ‘whether you like it or not basis’? In fact, the Malayans did not want to be independent because they feared that if left alone they would not be able to compete with the Chinese population of Malaya.

      Sabah, which was a separate entity that was under direct British colonial control, received independence from their British colonialists only on 31st August 1963 and for FIFTEEN DAYS was technically truly INDEPENDENT. However, on 16 September 1963, it was annexed to a new political entity whose new constitution was not even formally framed yet: the MALAYSIA Federation (the letter ‘S’ in the new name stood for Singapore, Sarawak and Sabah.)

      Now, here is the United Nations — Treaty Series No. 8029. MANILA ACCORD BETWEEN THE PHILIPPINES, THE FEDERATION OF MALAYA AND INDONESIA. SIGNED AT MANILA ON 31 JULY 1963
      Manila Accord. Signed at Manila, on 31 July 1963
      Manila Declaration. Signed at Manila, on 3 August 1963
      Joint Statement. Signed at Manila, on 5 August 1963

      Paragraph 12: The Philippines made it clear that its position on the inclusion of North
      Borneo in the Federation of Malaysia is subject to the final outcome of the Philippine claim to North Borneo. The Ministers took note of the Philippine claim and the right of the Philippines to continue to pursue it in accordance with international law and the principle of the pacific settlement of disputes. They agreed that the inclusion of North Borneo in the Federation of Malaysia would not prejudice either the claim or any right thereunder. Moreover, in the context of their close association, the three countries agreed to exert their best endeavours to bring the claim to a just and expeditious solution by peaceful means,such as negotiation, conciliation, arbitration, or judicial settlement as well as other peaceful means of the parties’ own choice, in conformity with the Charter of the United Nations and the Bandung Declaration.

      Take note of the dates, and regarding the alleged referendum in 1962-63 of the Sabahans, this was in actual fact only a sampling survey of less than four percent of the Sabah population. Check on the veracity of this yourself to confirm for yourself that Malaysia’s continuing annexation of Sabah is constitutionally wrong even by the 1963 Federation of Malaysia Constitution standard.

      • March 16, 2013 3:38

        One quick answer: Because the right to self-determination is one of the First Principles in international law, and people living in any territory possess this right.

  3. Mark permalink
    March 12, 2013 3:38

    You Sir, deserves my respect. One of the few Filipinos who chose to walk in the native Sabahans shoes rather than shouting the Philippines reign over Sabah while disregarding the choices of the people who had been there long before Kiram’s time. Dear neighbours, we don’t want to fight you but please, please, please respect the choice that we made.

  4. March 13, 2013 3:38

    http://www.untvweb.com/news/human-rights-violations-sa-mga-pilipino-mula-sa-sabah-iniimbestigahan-ng-chr/
    http://www.malaysia-today.net/mtcolumns/newscommentaries/54950-there-was-no-sabah-referendum http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/opinion/2011/01/01/why-fear-a-referendum-in-sabah/ If you’re all really followers of Ayn Rand, Human rights comes first,
    Self-determination

    • March 13, 2013 3:38

      Dear Mr. Vincent Blas,

      First, it seems you didn’t read this blog and your own links.

      Second, I don’t think you clearly understand the Sabah issue.

      Third, I doubt you know the proper concept of rights and self-determination as well as the relationships of the two.

      One doesn’t have to be an Ayn Rand “follower” to understand this issue and to make his/her own verdict. One only needs to have an active mind. I don’t think you have that attribute. You simply based your opinions/views on your emotions, not on REASON.

      Lemme tell you why.

      You said: “Human rights first, self-determination.”

      Did you clearly understand what you typed? The question is: WHOSE HUMAN RIGHTS?

      Well, I think you’re pertaining to the alleged “human rights” of Kiram’s private army, right?

      Here’s why you’re fundamentally wrong and why your premise is IMMORAL.

      We all know self-proclaimed Sultan Kiram III’s armed men tried to invade Sabah, which is an internationally recognized Malaysian territory. His claim? That Sabah is his own PRIVATE property. Remember that Kiram III refused to state that Sabah is part of the Philippine territory. This is why Sen. Chiz Escudero said: ”My personal view is that the Sabah claim is a personal issue involving the Sultan of Sulu. It’s a private right and a private claim. He cannot say, however, that Sabah is part of the Philippines.”

      Or: do you even know these basic facts?

      Did you know that Kiram III unilaterally revoked the resolution of August 1962 concerning the transfer of title and sovereignty to the Republic of the Philippines? Just read this blog. It’s there. This shows that the self-proclaimed sultan has been very consistent with his actions and words in that he never considered Sabah to be part of the Philippine territory.

      Now the undeniable fact is, Kiram III’s war on Malaysia is a personal one. Remember that he didn’t even consult the Philippine government. He simply thought Sabah is his PERSONAL PRIVATE property and then decided to take it back from Malaysia by FORCE. Then he sent his little armed men (who said they were duped by the Kiram family) to fight and die in Sabah.

      Lemme tell you this: You and the Kirams have blood on your hands.

      Did you know that one of the basic principles in international law is the right to national self-defense? The Malaysian government had the right to use military response to quell Kiram’s invading private army. That’s part of a nation’s right to self-defense. Kiram’s men were armed, and Kiram himself he would do everything to reclaim his lost PRIVATE property. Do you even know the basic facts of this issue. And Kiram doesn’t even have international legal personality. He’s not a sovereign. Like you and me, Kiram is just an ordinary citizen in this secular country.

      Human rights… Are you saying Kiram has inherent “human rights” to arm his private army to invade and terrorize a foreign territory? Are you saying the Malaysian government should just sit back and allow Kiram’s men to do whatever they feel or want do in Sabah, which is a sovereign territory of Malaysia by virtue of the Sabahans’ self-determination vote in 1963?

      Lemme ask you this…

      What if China did the same thing to the Philippines? What if one day China’s armed military descended on Spratly Islands or on Palawan islands on the ground that these territories are part of the Chinese’s historical territorial domain?

      Or: What if the United States army suddenly sought to militarily reclaim the Philippines on the ground that it was sold to them by the Spaniards for $20 million over 100 years ago?

      Remember that according to legend, North Borneo or Sabah was given as a “gift” by the Brunei’s sultan to the Sulu sultanate several hundreds of years ago. Take note: as a “gift”. The Sulu sultan did not even buy that island or territory. It was given to him as a bounty or a handout, just like a gold ring or a piece of chocolate. Don’t you think this is insulting to the Sabahans who have been occupying the disputed land long before the Brunei sultan claimed sovereignty or ownership?

      But that was part of the social norms during those primitive centuries. A king had the power to turn his subjects into slaves just as a sultan could just easily claim previously occupied lands as his own and then turn the native inhabitants into slaves.

      This is the history of the Philippines. But our former colonizers– the Americans– respected our right to SELF-DETERMINATION. Now, who are we to reject the Sabahans’ right to determine their own fate, rights and future?

      Our history books would tell you this country (Philippines) was sold by Spain to America for only $20 million. This country was priced $20M, while Sabah was merely given as a GIFT to the Sulu sultan.

      Now, why would you deny self-determination rights to the Sabahans? For centuries the Sabahans have been fighting, clamoring for their freedom and national identity. In fact, they should have built and established their own nation from from from any sultan or foreign pressure. They deserved to be free. They deserved to determine their own national identity just as we were given the same right to determine our own.

      The right to self-determination is one of the basic rights in international law.

      Finally, if you want to reclaim Sabah for your beloved self-proclaimed Sultan who is just an ordinary pinoy citizen like you and me, join his private army and then invade Sabah.

  5. Mewsicluvah permalink
    March 13, 2013 3:38

    Dear Malaysia,

    Apologies for such Idiotic moves by Kiram. He is not a Filipino.
    Soon we will start to teach him to act one.

    Best regards,

    Mewsicluvah

    • Karma permalink
      March 13, 2013 3:38

      Thanks mate!

      I never had any bad feelings towards Pinoys as I have made many friends with them due to our common love for the San Antonio Spurs!

  6. maya natsume permalink
    March 14, 2013 3:38

    “The truth is, Kiram III unilaterally revoked the resolution of August 1962 concerning the transfer of title and sovereignty to the Republic of the Philippines.” May I request the authoritative reference to this statement, please.

    • March 14, 2013 3:38

      Just google it…

      • maya natsume permalink
        March 14, 2013 3:38

        I am afraid no amount of googling could confirm your statement. Maybe, you could do be better so that you can justify the truth of your statement.

      • March 14, 2013 3:38

        Well, that’s a fact. Kiram III revoked the 1962 agreement. Here’s another source: “February 12, 1989: Sultan Mohammad Jamalal Kiram III(one of the claimnants to the throne) revoked the resolution of August 1962 regarding the transfer of title and sovereignty to the Republic of the Philippines.”

        But here’s the main source: “A Study on the Claim to North Borneo (Sabah)” by the Department of Foreign Affairs.

        Now, if you won’t accept this fact as valid, then it’s either you’re trying to delude yourself or you’re simply DISHONEST.

  7. Joey26 permalink
    March 14, 2013 3:38

    Let the Sabahans speak for themselves and avoid such “expert” opinions since everybody is entitled to his or her own opinion.

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  10. February 17, 2014 3:38

    When politics play all sang to the tune ,no doubt that the Slu Sultanate has lost the political power but granting they are fighting for self determination these last 500 years is the truth to consider. The point that they are a minority Muslims has no match to the clandestine power that shrouded them. One thing is sure that they will fight for their rights even for another 1000 years and yes it is their right for self determination although futile and will remain a dream.Let God judges who is the real villain.

  11. February 17, 2014 3:38

    In this world is game of power and wit, the Sulu Sultanate has none of it and so they were diminished ,this does’nt mean forever but like Israel whose bondage lasted 600 years has ended also . Sulu Sultanate is more like Israel of the Far East , they lost their land and become slave , they become stateless and restored , Sulu Sultanate need only a God ordained leader to re established what was lost.

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