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A Friendly Letter to All Pro-RH Bill Freaks

February 14, 2011

Dear pro-RH bill freaks,

I read a very interesting online news about RH bill supporters giving away free condoms before or during Valentine’s day. Good job then, RH bill crack-heads! We, secular anti-RH bill people, fully support your altruistic- or charitable- move. In fact, what you did is very much commendable. However, we do not support your call to make the government the provider of people’s RH care needs- or to call on the government to violate the employers’ rights by forcing them to provide the RH care needs of their workers against their will, for this is a violation of the constitutional guarantee of equal protection under the law.

But here’s a better deal. Since you are willing to use the power of the state to steal from others so to help the poor and the weak, and since you’re very much worried about the effects of alleged overpopulation, we suggest the following methods/strategies to help you achieve your altruistic, welfarist RH bill goals:

  • Have the courage to undergo mass ligation (for RH bill women supporters) and mass vasectomy (for men). We, anti-RH bill people, will shoulder your medical expenses.
  • If you’re so worried about overpopulation, go KILL yourselves first or offer your lives to the poor and the weak until the day you die. That is, commit MASS SUICIDE as some anti-population freaks did in other countries.
  • If selfless service for the the welfare of the poor is your fundamental goal in life, form an organization of pro-RH bill advocates or concerned citizens with the altruistic vision to provide for the poor people’s RH care needs. We don’t want to take part in your self-sacrificing agenda. However, we guarantee you that charitable private corporations and organizations will support your altruistic goals. 
  • Call on all leftists/Marxists/sociologists/neo-Liberals/statists in the country, particularly the Marxists in Congress, to pool their money for the benefit of the poor and less privileged women.
  • Mass migrate to North Korea, Cuba or Venezuela where the government provides for the needs (e.g. education, health care, abortion, transport, etc.) of their people from womb to tomb. We, anti-RH bill people, guarantee to shoulder your mass transport expenses.
  • If you want a welfare-statist government that would provide everything you need, we suggest that you form a new political party, say, Pro-RH Bill Party or Welfare Statists Party, and join the political process in 2016. You have all the right to influence the government just as the Catholic priests also have the right to influence our statist politicians. Here, you would have the freedom and the right to vote for a pro-RH bill or pro-welfare presidentiable (e.g. Rep. Edcel Lagman or Rep. Risa Hontiveros) who would guarantee to provide you everything you need from womb to tomb.
  • If you want to spread sex education and other RH bill information, please have the initiative to spread them privately and at your own expense. There are parents who don’t want their kids undergo this kind of leftist/Marxist indoctrination fully supported by sociology professors (who are all Marxists) and anti-population intellectuals like Winnie Monsod. Have Winnie Monsod lead your new political party or altruist organization. You may also provide free family planning counseling to poor people who’d like to avail of your free services.
  • If you want all workers to have free RH care services, why not start your own business or form a corporation whose stockholders are all pro-RH care advocates? Is this not a good idea? If you believe that most Filipinos support your idea, we also believe that many would be very much willing to selflessly invest in your RH care Corporation without any guarantee of possible return on investment. You might want to manufacture condoms, pregnancy test and contraceptive products, etc. But take note that your new Corporation is created to serve the poor people’s common good or greater good, thus its primary corporate goal is to provide the RH care and perhaps education and transport needs of its workers.
  • Since your RH bill seeks to coerce all doctors to abide by its unconstitutional provisions, why not call on all pro-RH bill doctors and health care providers to take part in your new organization? We believe there are doctors who do not support the RH bill. You might not want to violate their rights to ‘freedom of choice.’
  • If you’re so disgusted with the Catholic priests for trying to influence the government, why not create a new religion that would preach anti-population and statist gospels? You might want to join the statist group of the Filipino Freethinkers who are using science and reason and freedom to advance their own pro-big government, pro-fascism, pro-government control agenda.
  • Since some of us, anti-RH bill secularists, support abortion, we encourage your women to seek abortion especially now that the Congress is due to start a debate on the beginning of life.
  • You might also want to entertain and provide life-encouraging services to the poor and women. Why not call on dramatist Carlos Celdran and all actors and actresses who manifested their RH bill support to achieve this goal?

We still believe that despite the many state regulations and interventionist laws which you supported or helped support, we are still a free country. However, we disagree with your highly idiotic evaluation that ‘freedom of choice’ requires government intervention. We believe that ‘freedom of choice’ is part of our humanity, thus it is not created, provided for, financed, or forced by the government through the use of coercive, non-objective legislation. The only proper role of the state is to recognize, respect and protect this freedom against possible violation by its agents or private individuals. Allow me to say it very clearly, your RH bill seeks to violate freedom of choice because freedom, in the strictest sense of the word, is not a creature of law, government edict or any political decree; it is part of our nature as human beings.

Since we are still a free country, you are free to do whatever you want or advocate any statist program provided that you refrain from violating the rights of others. You have the right and freewill to form any kind of organization or political party that would deliver the promises of your anti-population, pro-welfarist vision, but you don’t have the right to turn the government into a rights-violating entity by making it the provider of everything the poor people need. Freedom of action and thought is one of the hallmarks of a free society. However, we believe a free society is an informed society, but such an information is not to be provided for, financed or guaranteed by the state. The delivery or absorption of any form of information, whether bad or good, should come from people’s private effort or initiative.

We believe that with the grace of God or any statist entity (if you’re an atheist like me), you would be able to achieve your statist, altruist goals. Just pray to your God (if you have any), or join the welfarist-mystical group of the Filipino Freethinkers for some pseudo-intellectual guidance.

Very disgusted RH bill opponent,

The Vincenton Post

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89 Comments leave one →
  1. Shawn Hubbard permalink
    February 14, 2011 3:38

    I love your way of challenging lefties on their issues. Another option to suicide or asking them to move to a totalitarian state would be to offer them assistance: we could offer to pay for their one-way ticket – only if they denounce their American citizenship. We could help them get a visa, passport, everything that a travel agency would do and more for permanent settlement in the land of their choice. By the way, I love the “Atlas Shrugged” trailer!

  2. Mike permalink
    February 15, 2011 3:38

    RH bill fans really trust the government that has failed them for decades. We are damned. If we don’t draw a very clear line, if not dig a chasm, to separate the church from the state. These lobbyists are actually selfish and self-interested in the popular sense of the word. They’re looking forward to the “benefit” that RH Bill is promising them. Why? because it gives them the convenience (or the excuse to be lazy), the peace of mind that someone else is paying for their RHcare. While I’m sure most of these zombies are loyal church-goers who preach altruism and kindness and religious nonsense of that kind, they’re not concerned about the question WHERE will the RH bill get the money. I doubt if they ever asked themselves. Or if they did: “what the hell do I care? It’s the problem of corporations and big-time business owners. They can and should hand in the money. They’re rich anyway, their sources are bottomless so they should share them to others, especially to the poor. There goes the altruists’ favorite line.

    They’re asking for more government intervention or legal aid from Robin Hood to violate others’ rights. The thing is, Robin Hood in the Philippines is unlike the original Robin Hood. The original Robin Hood distributes the goods to his people. The Filipino Robin Hood takes the biggest bite first and then redistribute what’s left to his people. If Filipinos aren’t so stupid, they would’ve stopped asking for more government intervention, the first moment they knew that the government is the abstraction of failure.

    These “faithful” followers of their so-called God are using two powerful brutes to mask a great crime and make it appear noble and legal: God and Government. It’s time to destroy destructive faith and mysticism and their extreme forms in Filipino culture. It’s about time to get out of the cave and find the light of reason, not belief in someone who’s so ashamed to show up centuries after the great promise. It’s about time to reclaim our individual rights!

    • February 15, 2011 3:38

      @ Mike.

      I had several encounters with some RH bill fans. Consider what this educated RH bill supporter told me when I told her that if their aim is to help poor people and women, then why not expand the roles or duties of some existing government agencies like the DOH, DepEd, DSWD, etc. Her reply?

      “Oh no! That would increase our taxes!”

      See? These statist RH bill people are HYPOCRITES!

      • March 1, 2011 3:38

        I think these RH-bill Statists do not understand the system of taxation. They are against tax increases but at the same time they want more services from the government. What a folly!

      • March 1, 2011 3:38

        I love your link, Roberto. Observe that most RH bill freaks also believe in global warming and that global warming- like overpopulation and poverty- must be legislated…

      • Damaso permalink
        March 23, 2011 3:38

        I one of those who have not read the RH Bill but I support the call of WHO and other world organizations who are calling all nations to manage their own population growth. I believe over-population is one of the root causes of social ills, economic stagnation of communities and nations, and many political conflicts.

        If all Filipinos unite toward the common goal of managing our population growth and each of us become responsible citizen then there will be no need for our government to force on us such a kind of RH Bill. And it not too late, let each one of us be responsible enough in managing ones own family and health fully aware of material resources one has, and the implications of ones own activities toward ecological balance and its sustainability.

      • March 23, 2011 3:38

        That kind of mentality is exactly what delivered stupid people in some countries to socialism or collectivism. They didn’t read the laws passed by their tyrants and they simply took their soothing, nice-to-hear political slogans on FAITH. That’s just like religion. Taking things on faith.

  3. February 16, 2011 3:38

    Haha, good read man!

  4. Prabda permalink
    February 17, 2011 3:38

    “If you’re so worried about overpopulation, go KILL yourself first or offer your lives to the poor and the weak until the day you die. That is, commit MASS SUICIDE as some anti-population freaks did in other countries.”

    Your logic is extremely disgusting and does not make any sense. Asking those people who you disagree with to commit suicide reflects how that you, yourself, are an autocrat who cannot even allow people to express themselves. I wonder if you are a remnant from the Dark Age or Hitler’s SS squad.

  5. Juan Galdo permalink
    February 18, 2011 3:38

    @Prabda
    “an autocrat who cannot even allow people to express themselves. ”

    Nah, that’s Carlos Celdran and the Filipino Freethinkers.

  6. February 21, 2011 3:38

    Yourself demonstrate, ignorance is impudent, indeed… I recommend yo to read/travel more. You are the typical one of many with studies in nothing and opinion in everything. Poor you.

    • February 21, 2011 3:38

      IDIOT,

      What do you know about the bill?

      • ynna atilano permalink
        September 26, 2011 3:38

        wow idiot some people did not no what is the rh bill but someday they will know what is rh bill ok understand@__@

  7. Ismelina permalink
    February 21, 2011 3:38

    Dude, where’s your EQ? You did point out some valid points, but not after dissing or showing off your superiority complex, and also showing how ignorant you seem to be at the state of our poor children and families. Try riding a jeep to EDSA-Guadalupe, take a look at the number of hungry, dirty children with their dazed and confused moms lying on the sidewalk in their kariton. Take another jeep and witness a grubby, sniveling kid shove down envelopes to your lap, with a note asking for money (probably some sham by some syndicates who employ these children to take advantage of our naivete and mercy)…and ask yourself: Where do all of these kids come from?!?! What is the government trying to do?!?! Where’s DSWD? Barangay? Where the heck are the cops?

    You say this:

    ” However, we believe a free society is an informed society, but such an information is not to be provided for, financed or guaranteed by the state. The delivery or absorption of any form of information, whether bad or good, should come from people’s private effort or initiative.”

    We have LOTS of private initiatives, and believe me, a lot of compassionate people are behind every NGO out there trying to help the poor and our children, but its not yet enough to make a dent. Our country is desperate. This belief is only applicable when we are already in our desired state…not yet when we are still a freaking 3rd world country.

    We can initiate so many fund raisers, and not just for this issue alone, but for other causes like environmental issues and human rights…but it will never be enough due to the sorry state that we’re in.

    It will still remain a philosophy, a pipe dream, a utopia. Until then we need something like the RH Bill. It’s not perfect (some areas need tweaking in my opinion) and it’s not the end all and be all, but it’s a start. There has to be a systematic change in governance and law for your ideology to thrive in. Until then your ideas and philosophy, while very valid in points, is not practical at where we are standing right now.

    Thinking people like you should be asking for a dialogue, for a middle ground….but no, you add fuel to the fire. Show some compassion, and not just intellectual, philosophic knowledge. We don’t need any freaking quotations from Ayn Rand or any philosophy idol. You’re thinking far too ahead, stop and be among us. Feel the urgency. Then suggest some solutions.

    • February 21, 2011 3:38

      Esmelina,

      You said: “where’s your EQ?”

      Do you think you, RH bill freaks, have EQ, if this term has any significance at all to this debate?

      You said: “You did point out some valid points, but not after dissing or showing off your superiority complex, and also showing how ignorant you seem to be at the state of our poor children and families.”

      And how about you superiority complex and utter IGNORANCE AND IDIOCY? I am more aware of the plight of our poor people and poor children than you do! However, I don’t believe that it is the role of the government to REDISTRIBUTE WEALTH (if you know what this term means) so to help the poor. I don’t think you can be so generous with other people’s money. Where will the government get the money to help the poor? Did you ever read the bill, STUPID? Let me tell you that to call you STUPID is actually an act of generosity. I am so generous for calling you stupid or ignorant, because the RH bill is more than just a plan- or a scheme- out of utter stupidity or ignorance. IT IS PURE EVIL!

      Read this to EDUCATE yourself about the intents and provisions of the bill, IGNORANT AND STUPID STATIST! https://fvdb.wordpress.com/2011/02/16/responsible-parenthood-bill-a-fascist-legislation-by-another-name/#comment-8200

      You can help the poor all you want! Nobody’s preventing you from doing what you want so long as you don’t violate other people’s right through your own will or through your support of welfare statism or government force.

      YOU STUPID SAID: “We can initiate so many fund raisers, and not just for this issue alone, but for other causes like environmental issues and human rights…but it will never be enough due to the sorry state that we’re in.”

      Do you ever understand what you’re prattling about? The bill is about FORCING EMPLOYERS to provide RH care services to their employees even if it’s against their will. The bill makes it mandatory for employers to be the slave of their workers! The bill seeks to VIOLATE free speech. Read this to EDUCATE YOURSELF, IDIOT! https://fvdb.wordpress.com/2011/02/16/responsible-parenthood-bill-a-fascist-legislation-by-another-name/#comment-8197

      Again, you are free to help the poor all you want, but reality has it that you cannot be charitable with other people’s money, IGNORANT!

      READ THE BILL BECAUSE YOU SIMPLY DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT, IDIOT!!!

      The bill is not simply about its aim to “help the poor”, as you RH bill idiots love to flaunt! It’s about fascism- it’s about controlling the whole PRIVATE BUSINESSES or INDUSTRY in the name of the poor- it’s about putting the ENTIRE MEDICAL PROFESSION and EDUCATION under STATE CONTROL.

      There should be no compromise or middle ground when individual rights and freedom are at stake. You expressed so much concern about the plight of the poor and women, yet you support the jailing or fining of employers who fail or refuse to deliver RH care services to their workers just because you believe that the latter have a right to RH care. Do you ever understand the UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES of the bill and of your UTTER IDIOCY? Are you ready to pay more or higher taxes or both just to realize your statist goal? Are you ready to make the government your family dictator?

      Read this to educate yourself, IDIOT! https://fvdb.wordpress.com/2010/10/24/the-rh-bills-impact-on-your-rights-and-freedom/

      • Frances permalink
        February 21, 2011 3:38

        * Clap clap clap clap *

        I just love your rebuttal. Especially the name-calling, which seems to be your favorite tactic. You put yourself at the top of the intellectual pyramid and verbally abuse/exploit those you see to be weak of intellect. Ayn Rand would be proud.

        Oh yeah. I don’t know why you misspelled Ismelina’s name with an E. Definitely not a case of mishearing.

        I know you love all caps:

        SPELLING NGA LANG DI MO NAKUHA, RH BILL PA KAYA?

      • February 21, 2011 3:38

        Yeah right!

        Like I said, to call those pro-RH bill people “idiot” or “ignorant” is an act of generosity, simply because what they support is a pure evil legislative proposal.

        But what do you know about the bill, IDIOT?

      • March 23, 2011 3:38

        “However, I don’t believe that it is the role of the government to REDISTRIBUTE WEALTH (if you know what this term means) so to help the poor. ”

        Guess what. The 1987 Philippine Constitution explicitly provides that:

        Art. II, Sec 10. “The State shall promote social justice in all phases of national development. ”

        What does the Constitution mean by “social justice?” Read on:

        ARTICLE XIII – SOCIAL JUSTICE AND HUMAN RIGHTS
        Section 1. The Congress shall give highest priority to the enactment of measures that protect and enhance the right of all the people to human dignity, reduce social, economic, and political inequalities, and remove cultural inequities by equitably diffusing wealth and political power for the common good.

        To this end, the State shall regulate the acquisition, ownership, use, and disposition of property and its increments.

        The State has the Constitutional mandate to engage in “wealth redistribution” in order to enable everyone to exercise their rights equally and equitably. Note that “property” here is not limited simply to personal material possessions; this includes commercial goods that the State can acquire and redistribute on an on-demand basis to a target demographic, such as the urban and rural poor.

        In other words, it doesn’t matter what you believe.

        “The bill is not simply about its aim to “help the poor”, as you RH bill idiots love to flaunt! It’s about fascism- it’s about controlling the whole PRIVATE BUSINESSES or INDUSTRY in the name of the poor- it’s about putting the ENTIRE MEDICAL PROFESSION and EDUCATION under STATE CONTROL.”

        All private businesses go through a gamut of government processes to come into existence and continue operations, more so for private businesses with Congressional franchises to operate public utilities. Education is supervised by the Dept. of Education and by CHED. The medical profession is heavily regulated even without the RH Bill due to the inherent public interest in the industry. I don’t see the relevance of your arguments, as State action is already present in all of those sectors you list even without the RH Bill.

        Another note: There is a clear, distinct line between being honest and being crass. You are being crass. Crass behavior just has no place in a civilized, intelligent discussion on issues. This does not help make your position any more or less valid. Your arguments are factual, why bother stooping this low?

      • March 23, 2011 3:38

        Yeah right! And this is how your invalid social justice is going to kill the country’s economy… https://fvdb.wordpress.com/2011/03/23/how-the-rh-bill-is-going-to-kill-business-particularly-small-business/

        Social justice is a leftist, Marxist concept. There can be no justice if some people’s rights are ignored or violated. There can be no justice if a society resorts to cannibalism or barbaric political methods so to deliver what the social planners call the common good.

    • March 7, 2011 3:38

      I really detest to read or hear arguments that comes into personal attack. Somehow, I don’t have that feeling reading the rebuttal.

      • March 7, 2011 3:38

        Then don’t. This is not the right time to be nice with some people who support fascism and the slavery of some group of people, if you really understand the real intents and provisions of the RH bill. The most proper move in this debate is: JUDGE AND BE READY TO BE JUDGED.

      • March 8, 2011 3:38

        Read again –

        “I really detest to read or hear arguments that comes into personal attack. Somehow, I DON’T HAVE THAT FEELING READING THE REBUTTAL.”

        I could have miswritten my previous comment, nevertheless, your stand against the RH bill is the same as what I have.

        A snippet from my argument against it :
        http://houseonahill.net/does-size-really-matter/

        “Just bear in mind that I’m just skeptic with this RH Bill not as a Catholic but primarily as a taxpayer who has a polluted mind of the intention of the framers of this bill.

        Example of what I mean is this simple thing – once the bill is approved, the government can use the tax money to buy contraceptives for free distribution to everybody whether they will use it or not. The drug manufacturers will hit a jackpot.

        This is totally different from those who would like to buy contraceptive themselves using their own money for birth control if there is no RH bill.

        The Department of Health has set aside P400 million for the purchase of natural and artificial means of family planning, including two million condoms to be distributed next year. This is with the RH bill still for approval.

        Tsk tsk…

        Do you really believe the RH bill is for those who can’t afford to buy contraceptives?”

      • March 8, 2011 3:38

        Hi Trosp, I apologize.

        “Do you really believe the RH bill is for those who can’t afford to buy contraceptives?”

        NO, I DON’T.

        Let me share with you a very interesting “study” by a so-called think tank perhaps funded by the UN, the government and other interested groups.

        This study entitled “Assessing Development Strategies to Achieve the MDGs in Asia: Philippines” was published by the Philippine Institute for Development Studies (PIDS), an absurd statist organization that recommends more taxation as a way to finance the government’s Millennium Development
        Goals.

        The statist think tank’s (PIDS) Keynesian “economy-wide computable general equilibrium (CGE) model”, which is founded on the premise that the government must assume the role of a nanny state, identifies the most potential VICTIM for the achievement of the administration’s welfare-state MDG.

        Since Briones et al. realize that financing increases in government spending through domestic and foreign borrowing and foreign transfer would have a negative impact on the economy, they thus argue that “This [situation] leaves tax financin…g for achieving the MDGs.”

        Here’s an excerpt of the study:

        “An economy-wide computable general equilibrium (CGE) model called MAMS, applied to the Philippines, examines economy-wide scenarios for attaining the MDGs through increase resource outlays. Application of the model finds the following: first, under a business-as-usual scenario, the country will likely fail to reach MDG goals for education and maternal health, while achieving only marginal reductions in poverty. Second, closing the MDG gaps will entail a massive increase in public spending. Financing such increases through domestic or foreign borrowing leads to unsustainable levels of debt stock. Financing via foreign transfers minimizes fiscal impacts but is infeasible owing to recent declining ODA trends. This leaves tax financing for achieving the MDGs. As for income poverty, under business as usual the projections indicate failure to achieve the first MDG goal. Apparently per capita income growth fails to translate into poverty reduction, as the economy fails to create higher paying jobs (for better educated workers) fast enough within the simulation period to 2015. Fortunately, poverty reduction is faster when government spending is directed towards closing MDG gaps, though insufficient to make appreciable headway in achieving MDG 1.

        “The study recommends attempting to close the MDG gaps using tax financing. This financing option is feasible in the sense that the required revenue effort has been achieved in previous decades. Admittedly, it entails a dramatic improvement in revenue effort compared to most recent
        (decadal) trends. This underscores the urgent, development-based rationale for raising tax collection efficiency, introducing new tax policies, in combination with public sector reforms for cost-effective service delivery.”

        The medium-term targets for 2015 include the following:

        • Potable water and sanitation services for the whole country by 2010, prioritizing 200 waterless municipalities nationwide, and 200 waterless barangays in the NCR;

        • Ensure universal primary education, raising net enrollment rate at the primary level to 93% (from 90% in 2002); raise the cohort survival rate to 78% (from 70% in 2002); raise the secondary school net enrollment rate to 84% (from 58% in 2002);

        • Achieve the MDGs for health such as reductions of infant and under-5 mortality rates, maternal mortality rate, and incidence of malaria and TB; and as well as dissemination of modern reproductive health practices;

        • Achieve the MDG target for hunger, i.e. reduce underweight prevalence among school children to 17%.

      • March 9, 2011 3:38

        Thanks for the time and for sharing additional insights on this statist issue in our country.

        Actually, I found out about your blog by accident when I was googling for something related to a political issue.

        BTW, do you have anything on why climategate was not put into news by ALL news outlets in our country? It was a news in US and Britain and not a single word was said about it on all Philippines news outlets.

  8. February 22, 2011 3:38

    @ VinceTon Post:

    I am for you. Go and make some lambaste on these lazy people who knows nothing but to wait government assistance just to survive. these people already lost self-respect. nothing but like a beggar on streets asking because they are too lazy can’t work for themselves and too lost they can’t make up their mind.

    • February 22, 2011 3:38

      Thanks! They wanted to be so generous by spending other people’s money… If you oppose their collectivist-altruistic goal, it’s as if you committed a crime against humanity.

    • Ismelina permalink
      February 22, 2011 3:38

      have you ever been too hungry that you can’t think straight? imagine that thousand times over happening to those people. it’s not just about laziness, because it’s their extreme hunger that’s already thinking for them, there’s no self respect left in extreme hunger, the mind doesn’t work anymore in extreme hunger and rugby dependence…have you ever thought about that? these people only have survival to think of, their self respect already ran out the first moment they rummage thru trash for food. while we ordinary people with 3-5 meals a day have the luxury to debate on these things for them.

      so until then, what do you propose to do with them? kill them? because most, if not some, of them are not just lazy. they just want someone to care a little…just a little for them to get back on their own feet.

      what’s a little care and altruism to you? are you human or machine? what has hardened your hearts? i don’t think our great philosophers ever practice or encourage getting rid of compassion in society. i highly doubt they see this situation coming either.

      too much thinking will hardly get us moving forward. balance, i say.

      • February 22, 2011 3:38

        Please read this blog for you to better understand the bill! https://fvdb.wordpress.com/2011/02/16/responsible-parenthood-bill-a-fascist-legislation-by-another-name/

        If you care for the poor and if you know what the hell you’re talking about, then you should stop supporting this EVIL, FASCIST bill, STUPID! Do you know the impact of this bill on the entire industry?

        Let me show you how.

        The United States under the democratic-infested Obama administration passed and approved the Obamacare or universal health care. We all know that the US, which remains as the superpower country on earth, is many times richer than the Philippines. Now the following are the effects of the Obamacare:

        1. More and more doctors and health care providers are willing to quit their job because of the penal provision of the Obamacare. The RH bill has the same penalty provision against our doctors and health care givers. PROOF: https://fvdb.wordpress.com/2011/02/16/responsible-parenthood-bill-a-fascist-legislation-by-another-name/#comment-8214

        2. Increased taxes. The RH bill will have the same effect on our taxes. PROOF: http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/health-care/5911-tax-hikes-in-obamacare

        3. Obamacare negatively affects small businesses due to raised labor costs, . The same is true with the RH bill as it forces employers to shoulder the RH care needs of their workers. PROOF: http://www.helium.com/items/1778534-how-obamacare-will-affect-businesses-national-healthcare-effects

        4. UNEMPLOYMENT. To think that Obamacare in America now causes more unemployment as companies begin to close down due to the law’s effects on business. PROOF: http://blog.heritage.org/2010/03/17/obamacare-increases-unemployment-insurance-premiums-deficit-and-debt/

        5. Poor medical and drug innovation. PROOF: http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/259846/obamacare-vs-drug-innovation-william-s-smith

        Now, since most of you are so IGNORANT AND STUPID, I know you’re going to interpose a defense or argument that ObamaCare is different from the RH bill. That’s most of some pro-RH people told me in the past.

        FYI, a universal health care or a single-payer system (like the ObamaCare) covers everything, from reproductive health bill to insurance premiums, etc. In short, it covers all individuals from womb to tomb. However, the fact remains that the ObamaCare is now a failure as most unions and companies REQUESTED FOR EXEMPTION, and most of those who made the requests are unions, big companies and companies closely connected to the Obama administration.

        If this one-payer system is so good, why did the Obama administration grant those exemption requests?

        The answer is simple. It’s because the Obama admin officials now realize the unintended consequences of their grand socialist/Marxist scheme.

        NOW, you can talk about your concern about the plight of the poor all you want. But the fact remains that the RH bill seeks to punish employers, doctors and anyone who would engage in malicious disinformation about the bill’s intents and provisions.

        READ THIS TO FURTHER EDUCATE YOURSELF… https://fvdb.wordpress.com/2010/11/21/welfare-state-the-agenda-behind-the-rh-bill/

      • Carissa Rulla permalink
        July 16, 2011 3:38

        i agree with the hunger issue. Extreme hunger makes it hard to think straight. Try niyo kaya minsan. Masyado kayong judgemental. Try putting yourselves in the position of those poor people you judge so much… kahit isang araw lang.

  9. Lyz permalink
    February 22, 2011 3:38

    want to know your thoughts on some things: so you believe in abolishing the Pag-ibig fund? SSS/GSIS? medicare? how about minimum wage, should that be gone too? after all, these are leftist concepts that only benefit certain segments in our society, not everyone.

    • February 22, 2011 3:38

      Yes to all, except SSS which must be put to its proper place. All these social institutions- Pag-Ibig and GSIS- are now in huge debt, and the government wouldn’t be able to face the coming wave of baby-boomers. SSS, on the other hand, must be freed from political shackles. Let it be run and managed solely by private individuals and the government must only come in when rights are violated. Minimum wage should also be abolished.

      • lyz permalink
        February 22, 2011 3:38

        how about public schools? UP? public hospitals or gov’t health centers? PGH?

      • February 22, 2011 3:38

        Public schools must either be abolished or privatized. Go to my blog’s search engine and then use the following search terms: private education, UP, university of the philippines, alfredo pascual, free market education, public education.

        PGH, government health care, GOCCs must be privatized to stop corruption and to excessive government spending. The only agencies that must be funded by the government, through voluntary contribution, are the following:

        1. Law courts to settle legal disputes and protect contracts and intellectual property.

        2. Police to protect us from criminals.

        3. Armed forces to protect us from internal threats and invasion.

        4. Some agencies for the protection of contracts, IP rights, and property rights.

        Everything from education to health care to pension to insurance to gambling establishments must be privatized.

    • March 4, 2011 3:38

      Who says that private companies are free from corruption?

      WHat does the UK universal healthcare system, Oxford University, and the BBC have in common? They are the best in the world and they are heavily subsidized by tax money. As such, a British child born to the poorest of the poor has opportunities to improve his/her situation if he/she wanted to.

      • March 4, 2011 3:38

        Nobody said that the private sector is free from corruption, stupid!

        “WHat does the UK universal healthcare system, Oxford University, and the BBC have in common? They are the best in the world and they are heavily subsidized by tax money. ”

        It seems that you don’t know what you’re talking about. The best?! You must be crazy!

  10. Ismelina permalink
    February 22, 2011 3:38

    I know about the labor part of the RH Bill, believe me, I’ve been in that part of the fence already, having worked in HR for a long while. Companies are forced to schedule an AIDS awareness workshop every year and other things.

    I’m going to keep my reply to this short and succinct as I can. I won’t resort to calling people ignorant or whatever. True intelligence doesn’t belittle others, but shares information on many sides of the story. True intelligence gathers facts from both sides, and not bark its view from a high ivory tower.

    But thanks for the link of your blog that sheds another picture. Might I suggest this link?

    http://antipinoy.com/dissecting-the-rh-bill/

    I found that more enlightening than yours…because the post never called ME ignorant.

    • February 22, 2011 3:38

      For your information, that antipinoy article is ALREADY OBSOLETE because it talks about one of the first versions of the bill. We’re talking about the consolidated bill– or the Responsible Parenthood bill- that does NOT talk about “mployers with more than 200 employees”. The consolidated bill talks about ALL EMPLOYERS and ALL WORKERS, stupid!

      Read my blog to educate yourself! https://fvdb.wordpress.com/2011/02/16/responsible-parenthood-bill-a-fascist-legislation-by-another-name/

      Please update and inform yourself because you clearly don’t know what you’re talking about. The consolidated bill is UNCONSTITUTIONAL in ALL RESPECTS!

      Your IGNORANCE is one of the reasons why most societies in the past fell to dictatorship.

      SO WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THE CONSOLIDATED BILL?

      • February 22, 2011 3:38

        Let me add, Ismelina, that selfless concern for the welfare of others is NOT an excuse- or a justification- for the establishment of dictatorship… And you fully yet unwittingly support fascism or dictatorship owing to your ignorance.

        You know why some societies in the past fell to tyranny? It’s because of people’s ignorance. It’s because of the ignorant, ill informed and stupid people who supported statist, fascist political programs designed to serve the welfare of the poor. Know your history. Every tyrant in history promised to bring the greater good or the common good.

      • ismelina permalink
        February 22, 2011 3:38

        But this really isn’t about the RH Bill now….once you call people dumb and ignorant you go beyond the topic already. First rule of debate 101: NEVER RESORT TO INSULTS

        Like you calling me stupid will further advance your cause for me to be enlightened? Do you think if i call you stupid or ignorant, would you be swayed to my side? Think…don’t sputter emotional words like ignorant or dumb or whatever.It’s not going to make YOU ANY SMARTER IF YOU SAY THAT TO EVERYBODY WHO GOES AGAINST YOU AGAIN AND AGAIN.

        To quote Shylock in The Merchant of Venice, “If you prick us, do we not bleed?”

        I know this is YOUR BLOG and all, and it’s supposed to be about you and your smartness, greatness and your absolute knowledge on EVERYTHING–but you calling your readers ignorant and dumb is the HEIGHT of immaturity and your being DUMB yourself.

        Seriously, you have so much quotes from smart people, and read a lot, would that pass you off as smart yourself? Really now? Would calling us ignorant and other adjectives found in the dictionary advance your cause and prove your genius in so many things? Seriously?

        Quit barking from your high tower. Di lang kayo matalino at kami bobo.

      • February 22, 2011 3:38

        You said: “But this really isn’t about the RH Bill now….once you call people dumb and ignorant you go beyond the topic already. First rule of debate 101: NEVER RESORT TO INSULTS.”

        First, I will never apologize for calling you ignorant or stupid, because that’s what you are. That’s what most, if not all, pro-RH bill supporters are. However, I must admit that some of them are dishonest, as they fully know the nature of evil which they so fervently support. These dishonest RH-bill supporters are the leftists and Marxists who fully support government control of the industry and the sacrifice of some group of people to the needy, the poor, the less privileged.

        It’s either-or. It’s either these pro-government control of our lives are IGNORANT/STUPID or DISHONEST.

        As to name-calling, read this https://fvdb.wordpress.com/2010/11/21/welfare-state-the-agenda-behind-the-rh-bill/ .

        I said:

        “Name-calling per se (that is, without justification or showing any evidence to support one’s claim) is bad. In any discourse or debate, we have to identify our opponent- what is it that motivates him- why does he act or think in such a way- what’s the fundamental premise of his beliefs or arguments. Thus, identification is necessary no matter how harsh it may appear to the other party. When one is faced with an opponent, one has to identify the latter’s beliefs or ideology. The rule here is: know thy self and know thy enemy. This simply means that the “real” enemy is not the person, but the belief or ideology. One must not confuse an entity or a person with an ideology. The first is the “motivated”, as he embodies or acts on a particular premise, ideology or belief. The second is the motivator or the source of motivation.”

        Again, your pitiful rants does not qualify you as a WELL-INFORMED RH bill supporter. You are one of those RH bill supporters who accepted Edcel Lagman’s and his ilk’s politics of COMMON GOOD and PUBLIC WELFARE on faith without reading or fully understanding the real intents and provisions of the bill and its impact on YOUR RIGHTS, FREEDOM AND RIGHTS.

        What do you call those creatures who die in the hands of their own tyrants in all dictatorships (e.g., North Korea, Cuba, etc.)? Most of them are STUPID and deserve their fate for supporting their own tyrants. There would be no tyrants or dictatorships without IGNORANT, STUPID, GULLIBLE, CREDULOUS people who easily believe in populist, welfarist government plans.

        AGAIN: What do you know about the CONSOLIDATED bill?

      • February 22, 2011 3:38

        See? You who support the sacrifice of businessmen and health care providers (READ THE BILL) hate to receive insults for WHAT YOU ARE!

        You don’t want insults yet you support the JAILING and FINING of employers and doctors who fail and/or refuse to obey the intents of the bill?

        You don’t want insults yet you support the JAILING and FINING of ANYONE for “maliciously engaging in disinformation” of the intents of the bill? You support a bill that VIOLATES FREE SPEECH!

        If you know what you’re talking about and if you’re NOT STUPID, you would have known that THIS IS THE ONLY BILL that seeks to punish ANYONE who would engage in a crime called malicious disinformation.

        Yet you hate to be called STUPID and IGNORANT?

        Yet you call these “things” INSULTS? You don’t only deserve to be insulted when you support a FASCIST BILL that seeks to VIOLATE OUR RIGHTS AND FREEDOM!

        It’s a good thing that you receive INSULTS from me. That is, FROM A PRIVATE INDIVIDUAL.

        What do you think you’re doing? You are supporting a legislative proposal that would not not only insult some group of people (employers, doctors and anyone) BUT WOULD PUT THEM TO JAIL AS WELL!!!

        What a hypocritical, stupid creature!

  11. ismelina permalink
    February 22, 2011 3:38

    Let’s get past this calling of names shall we? Let’s argue without reacting to such, so I won’t hurt you by retaliating.

    It’s not about ignorance of dumbness, but I would absolutely support your view if it weren’t for our country being not ready for it. There are stages in which we need to be in in order for us to be in a stage where you and your values can thrive and be supported…and simply our country isn’t there yet. Thus, we would need laws and bills that would seem for you be a violation of our freedom and thus is fascist…but, the ends justifies the means in this case.

    I see the danger of the bill, like you see it, but yet why do I support it? It’s because it will support my welfare and others as well. It will need revisions, it will need improvement, but that’s why we have smart people who ask the WHAT IFS and the WHY NOTS.

    The problem with this is that both sides are too combative to actually sit down and ask these questions. We’re too busy accusing each other as stupid, dumb or immoral, or what not. We fail to see the potential of this bill if we put our minds together and make it work for us.

    • February 22, 2011 3:38

      READ THIS:

      See? You who support the sacrifice of businessmen and health care providers (READ THE BILL) hate to receive insults for WHAT YOU ARE!

      You don’t want insults yet you support the JAILING and FINING of employers and doctors who fail and/or refuse to obey the intents of the bill?

      You don’t want insults yet you support the JAILING and FINING of ANYONE for “maliciously engaging in disinformation” of the intents of the bill? You support a bill that VIOLATES FREE SPEECH!
      If you know what you’re talking about and if you’re NOT STUPID, you would have known that THIS IS THE ONLY BILL that seeks to punish ANYONE who would engage in a crime called malicious disinformation.

      Yet you hate to be called STUPID and IGNORANT?

      Yet you call these “things” INSULTS? You don’t only deserve to be insulted when you support a FASCIST BILL that seeks to VIOLATE OUR RIGHTS AND FREEDOM!
      It’s a good thing that you receive INSULTS from me. That is, FROM A PRIVATE INDIVIDUAL.

      What do you think you’re doing? You are supporting a legislative proposal that would not not only insult some group of people (employers, doctors and anyone) BUT WOULD PUT THEM TO JAIL AS WELL!!!

      What a hypocritical, stupid creature!

      AGAIN: What do you know about the CONSOLIDATED bill?

    • February 22, 2011 3:38

      This is NOT just a stupid comment but PURE EVIL: “Thus, we would need laws and bills that would seem for you be a violation of our freedom and thus is fascist…but, the ends justifies the means in this case.”

      So you think that the fascist provisions of the bill are just my opinion? READ THE BILL.

      That Machiavellian credo- the end justifies the means- is the foundation of all fascist ideologies and regimes in the past. That’s the foundation of Hitler’s aryan rule of Germany.

      Only a very people have the intellectual ability to grasp the many fascist, statist provisions of the bill. That the bill seeks to violate the following constitutionally guaranteed rights:

      * Equal protection under the law
      * The rights and freedom of employers
      * The rights and freedom of doctors and health care providers
      * The rights and freedom of parents to decide on their own
      * The rights and freedom of the people to say NO to government intrusion into family homes and people’s private lives.
      * The rights and freedom of young students against state-imposed sex education
      * The people’s right to free speech and freedom of expression
      * Everybody’s right to be left alone
      * Everybody’s right against any probable imposition of higher or new taxes
      * The right to freedom of choice, which is being perverted and destroyed by Rep. Edcel Lagman and his stupid ilk

      The end justifies the means is one of the main reasons why Marcos passed the anti-Subversion law which I reject. Why Marcos declared Martial law to allegedly save us from the communists. Why Hitler had to kill million Jews to rid the world from the conspiracy of the Jewish race.

      So it is OK for you to sacrifice and jail employers and doctors and anyone who refuse or fail to obey the intents of the consolidated bill?

      Yet you have the gall to say: “I see the danger of the bill, like you see it, but yet why do I support it?”

      YOU SAID: “It’s because it will support my welfare and others as well. It will need revisions, it will need improvement, but that’s why we have smart people who ask the WHAT IFS and the WHY NOTS.”

      You “welfare” at whose expense? You own welfare when other people’s freedom and rights are violated?

      Your welfare when this scheme would lead to UNEMPLOYMENT and medical BRAIN DRAIN due to the simple fact that the bill seeks to punish employers and health care providers. If it happened in Great Britain and France, would it not happen in this poor country?

      For your information, when African government began to FUND health care and even what we know in this country as RH care services, what followed was MEDICAL BRAIN DRAIN. READ THIS REPORT to educate yourself: http://marketplace.sibaya.com/2010/09/06/medical-brain-drain-in-africa-mbeki/

      You think of your own welfare when you don’t know HOW WILL THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE the many promises of the bill?

      Where will the money come from?

      It will come from the following:

      1. Employers

      2. Taxpayers

      3. Probably loan or credit.

      You said it will need revisions yet you don’t even know which part of the bill is to be revised. Yet you believe that the end justifies the means.

      Yet to don’t want to be called IGNORANT and STUPID?

  12. ismelina permalink
    February 22, 2011 3:38

    Don’t rationalize emotions as it is never rational…:) Even if you say it’s not about the person, deep inside it still is. We are only human after all, and it takes really great effort to detach yourself from such words. We can pretend not to be hurt, but up to what point? Humans vary in their reaction, and if you really are smart enough, you should learn to adapt from it, instead of insisting that one formula (name calling) can and will work to everyone.

    Again, you are being too advanced. Try going down from your tower and talk to us in a different manner, then perhaps your points will get through us. It did get through me, but I would have to swim past the name calling. Why torture us so?

    If you really want emotion out of this and stick to your points, why not take out those words instead? Try it, it might actually work…:) Psychology trumps Philosophy sometimes. Give us lesser being more tact, please. If you’re really smart, you know which tactic to try on many people on how to be swayed towards your views.

    You will definitely not make it as a teacher. I hope you’re not one…:)

    • February 22, 2011 3:38

      This is NOT just a stupid comment but PURE EVIL: “Thus, we would need laws and bills that would seem for you be a violation of our freedom and thus is fascist…but, the ends justifies the means in this case.”
      So you think that the fascist provisions of the bill are just my opinion? READ THE BILL.
      That Machiavellian credo- the end justifies the means- is the foundation of all fascist ideologies and regimes in the past. That’s the foundation of Hitler’s aryan rule of Germany.
      Only a very people have the intellectual ability to grasp the many fascist, statist provisions of the bill. That the bill seeks to violate the following constitutionally guaranteed rights:
      * Equal protection under the law
      * The rights and freedom of employers
      * The rights and freedom of doctors and health care providers
      * The rights and freedom of parents to decide on their own
      * The rights and freedom of the people to say NO to government intrusion into family homes and people’s private lives.
      * The rights and freedom of young students against state-imposed sex education
      * The people’s right to free speech and freedom of expression
      * Everybody’s right to be left alone
      * Everybody’s right against any probable imposition of higher or new taxes
      * The right to freedom of choice, which is being perverted and destroyed by Rep. Edcel Lagman and his stupid ilk
      The end justifies the means is one of the main reasons why Marcos passed the anti-Subversion law which I reject. Why Marcos declared Martial law to allegedly save us from the communists. Why Hitler had to kill million Jews to rid the world from the conspiracy of the Jewish race.
      So it is OK for you to sacrifice and jail employers and doctors and anyone who refuse or fail to obey the intents of the consolidated bill?
      Yet you have the gall to say: “I see the danger of the bill, like you see it, but yet why do I support it?”
      YOU SAID: “It’s because it will support my welfare and others as well. It will need revisions, it will need improvement, but that’s why we have smart people who ask the WHAT IFS and the WHY NOTS.”
      You “welfare” at whose expense? You own welfare when other people’s freedom and rights are violated?
      Your welfare when this scheme would lead to UNEMPLOYMENT and medical BRAIN DRAIN due to the simple fact that the bill seeks to punish employers and health care providers. If it happened in Great Britain and France, would it not happen in this poor country?
      For your information, when African government began to FUND health care and even what we know in this country as RH care services, what followed was MEDICAL BRAIN DRAIN. READ THIS REPORT to educate yourself: http://marketplace.sibaya.com/2010/09/06/medical-brain-drain-in-africa-mbeki/
      You think of your own welfare when you don’t know HOW WILL THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE the many promises of the bill?
      Where will the money come from?
      It will come from the following:
      1. Employers
      2. Taxpayers
      3. Probably loan or credit.
      You said it will need revisions yet you don’t even know which part of the bill is to be revised. Yet you believe that the end justifies the means.
      Yet to don’t want to be called IGNORANT and STUPID?

    • February 22, 2011 3:38

      Let me ask:

      What welfare of yours are you talking about?

  13. ismelina permalink
    February 22, 2011 3:38

    You’re lost because you’re too busy thinking of me as an ignoramus. Your brain cancels out the fact that I wrote that I want it revised. I didn’t say it was perfect. Do I have to list down what I know about the new bill? Would that really prove that I read it? Do I have to prove myself? OK fine, whatevs.

    The jailing is one of the points I want to be revised. I agree that the burden of making people aware of their RH options should also be set upon businesses, I don’t think it should be to the point that it should be imposed in a way of punishment or fines. We don’t want companies to take their responsibilities just because of this. We want them to sincerely believe that they have an important part in spreading awareness and choice.

    Fining is also has its dangers. With the degree of corruption that we have right now, fining is a dangerous thing to propose. What should instead be done is to actively monitor the QUALITY of the activities that companies are doing to propagate RH. Right now, with the required AIDs awareness workshops being held in workplaces, oftentimes we need to ask this: Did people learn a lot from it? Or was it just a great excuse from them to skip a couple of hours off work? Same questions must be asked with regard to RH advocacy.

    The bill as a whole is also expensive and cumbersome to run. It’s not friendly to businesses. Some points are redundant. But these are already been mentioned, and I don’t want to recycle them again or want to dissect it all over again, just for the sake of proving that I did read the bill and I happen to agree with the points made against it.

    Why would I want to support this bill when I have parents who run a business? And a large one at that? Again, I support it, but not as it is.

    So what part of “I support it but I want it revised” don’t you understand? Is it too gray an area for you to understand? Because you see this as black and white, this and that. Good and evil.

    It’s impossible to win with you because we differ in ideologies, so I’m not out to do so. I want to be free of the the accusations that you have hurled at me such as being ignorant. Because I’m not. What I am is that I have a different opinion and mindset about this issue. To embrace your point and agree to you 100% is not about being smarter nor disagreeing with you is being stupid. You are anti democratic yourself whenever you accuse us of disagreeing with you by calling us as ignorant. Can’t we just agree to disagree?

    Is it possible for me to see your points and still support the good intentions of the bill? For me, it is. I have a thing about seeing the glass as half full, thus my deciding to support it. That’s just me, and that’s not being stupid or ignorant or anything. It’s just me exercising my intellect and concluding on my own, based on my beliefs and knowledge.

    You miscontrue my pro RH bill stance as that of not reading the ENTIRE document, but that is not the point. You don’t see that I can still support the bill because I want to encourage its improvement, and I seek that more people analyze this bill so that we can address its flaws.

    For you it’s all about rejecting the bill because of the EVIL that you see. It’s not set to your ideals. But I still see some good in it. So who’s working to make it mostly good? Are you, with your authority and knowledge willing to set your feelings against this bill aside and work to make it better? What would it make it right in your eyes? Abolishing it? What have you got that’s any better?

    Nothing. Your philosophy says to leave everything alone for people to find it by themselves. The Bishops think its immoral to even attempt to curb population, and so for years we have avoided touching the issue because of both reasons. That has gone on long enough here and now….and now look what is happening.

    What’s any better? You don’t offer anything, so for me and the rest, that’s the reason why we support the RH Bill. You naysayers don’t offer anything better, you just sit there, think of everything and rant and push your insights in a manner that is very undignified.

    I don’t expect an apology from you, really. Stubborn and biased people never apologize for their biases.

    • February 22, 2011 3:38

      That means that the bill must be rejected in all respects. If you had enough brain cells to understand the real intents of the bill, you’d be against it. But you’re not because you’re an IGNORAMUS…

      The forcing, jailing or fining of employers and doctors is an essential, indispensable part of the law. That makes you so ignorant because you don’t know how the leftist and fascist lawmakers like Lagman think. That’s the essence of the bill since the government is already broke, bankrupt, cash-strapped, if you’re aware of the economic status of the government. That’s what I’ve been talking about in my previous blogs. The government has no money. We’re now in huge debt at more than P4 trillion. The government faces a VERY HIGH budget deficit, which means it can hardly finance its welfare programs due to lack of enough budget.

      If you remove the jailing and fining of employers, that means that the government would be left alone to shoulder the RH expenses. Which means that it would have two options: 1) tax the people (by increasing corporate income tax as what UP Pres. Alfredo Pascual proposed https://fvdb.wordpress.com/2011/02/07/marxism-and-hypocrisy-i-up/ ), or 2) borrow money from foreign creditors.

      Is this hard to understand?

      Even in the United States, which is a highly developed country, employers and companies were made to answer for the insurance premiums and health care costs of their workers. That’s the essence of the ObamaCare, if you still don’t understand.

      Without the forcing of employers and doctors- or penal provisions- this consolidated bill would be futile, because the government would be compelled to allot billions of pesos to realize the measure’s intents and goals… if you understand the politics and philosophy of the bill.

      You should understand that every legislative measure that seeks to deliver public goods and welfare to the poor has chosen VICTIMS. The Labor code, which seeks to serve the interests of workers, has employers as its victims.

      By the way, the bill cannot be revised since it is not yet a law. However, it appears that the stupid lawmakers in Congress are determined to push for the bill’s passage whatever it takes.

      You said I don’t offer anything. YOU’RE WRONG. I offer an alternative, which is the most moral, rational system. And this is by letting the free market work. The government cannot take care of some people without robbing/stealing from the successful and those who are able to produce. If the fate of some less fortunate people is your fundamental concern in life, like I said, why not offer your life to them? For those of us who reject the bill, it does not mean we don’t care for others. In fact, we VERY MUCH CARE for others because of the probable unintended consequences of your COLLECTIVE STUPIDITY.

      You should understand that it’s EITHER-OR. It’s either you reject the bill or support the bill. There’s no middle ground as you said. The only way to help the poor is through private efforts or initiative. There’s no other way. Any compromise, that is, by giving power to the government to redistribute wealth or to use the power of force, would be EVIL.

      I said it before (https://fvdb.wordpress.com/2010/10/14/rh-bill/ ), and this is the main MESSAGE OF MY BLOG:

      The only social system that can save this country from worsening poverty is capitalism—and the only solution to overpopulation, which is not even a problem, is to reject the morality of altruism, the concept of statism, and embrace reason, individualism, and a philosophy for living on earth. This way, the Filipino can achieve a new renaissance for this country. In fact, the free-market system is the best form of birth or population control.

      In his article debunking overpopulation myth and the evil influence of Thomas Malthus, Manfred Schieder wrote:

      Capitalism involves, thus, an automatic system of birth control, a fact that the general population hasn’t considered yet but which adds a great deal to reduce the dangers involved in birth delivery for women. People who perceive a better future in their life are less interested in producing children as “sustenance security” for their old age and, besides, they are keen in providing their offsprings with a better education than they themselves ever had. Further on, less children free a female from the so-called “kitchen chores”. Now they can earn their own money, which increases the amount of money to be saved and so adds to life’s enjoyment. In addition they can now delight in their own body and sexual relations that are in themselves a tool of happiness and no longer the terror of unavoidable pregnancies that may mean their own deaths, quite separately from the possible death of the babies (all this beside the added security of the higher standards of hygiene and the increased amount of medicines invented). Wherever even traces of Capitalism are applied, a decrease of sexual practice as mere generators of more human beings and an increase of all kinds of sexual activity for personal satisfaction can be seen. The scholars of Capitalism already foresaw this fact, but it’s almost surprising that it appears on such an early implementation of some parts of the system, as we are facing nowadays. The only possible rational social system – Capitalism – solves, thus, the essential problems of both nature and the human being in a peaceful, self-respecting, productive way.

      Also in this blog (https://fvdb.wordpress.com/2010/11/21/welfare-state-the-agenda-behind-the-rh-bill/) I stated:

      Ideas have consequences. If implemented, the RH bill, which is a welfare statist idea, would have negative consequences on our ailing economy, freedom and rights. Every onerous political program (e.i., a program that requires fiscal backing) relies on the financial backbone of our economy. One cannot merely say: “why should we worry about the source of funding?” This kind of mentality is what bankrupted most societies in the past and even today. Look at Greece wherein its socialist politicians established welfare statism. Greece’s economic downfall affected the whole EU bloc simply because the economies of Europe are attached to the euro. Thankfully, Greece and all members of the European Union cannot print their own paper money.

      The only way to fight poverty is to guarantee economic freedom. The case of Hong Kong is the best example I could give. Several decades ago, we were richer and more economically stable compared to Hong Kong. This tiny state did not achieve economic success by establishing welfare statism or spending its way out of poverty. Hong Kong is rich and successful because of its less intrusive economic and political climate. For example, tariff or duty is not imposed on products shipped into Hong Kong. Also, taxes are levied only on particular products, such as automobiles, gasoline, tobacco, and alcohol. This is beneficial to both Hong Kong nationals and importers, including businessmen and investors, because goods are cheap in this Chinese territory. In fact, this reality-based policy is the best way to fight poverty.

      By contrast, foreign investors leave and avoid the Philippines because of its too intrusive economic and political environment, graft and corruption, bribery, and too much corporate and business-related taxes, as the total tax rate that businesses pay after profits goes as high as 45 percent. Apart from threatening to implement RH programs in the country, our Congress also plan to implement universal health care and antitrust law, statist proposals that are utterly anti-business and anti-economic freedom.

      If the pro-RH bill mob had any brains, they would have understood that the RH bill is a very intrusive regulatory mechanism. Its provisions on “employers’ responsibility” will definitely discourage both local and foreign businessmen to invest in the Philippines. Since employers would be obliged by law or at the point of gun to provide their workers with RH care services, the former would be compelled to increase the prices of their products and services, thus affecting consumers. The government cannot simply prohibit employers from increasing the prices of their commodities and services by imposing price controls, otherwise businesses would go bankrupt or be forced to close. This is what is happening now in America.

      Again, you went on with your altruistic drivel without even telling what you know about the bill. That shows you clearly don’t understand how it would impact your and other people’s rights, freedom and future. You only think of the immediate, short-term effects of the bill without knowing how it would impact the entire business industry, the entire medical profession and the entire country. Remember that the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

      • Meg permalink
        February 23, 2011 3:38

        You’re hardly doing all you can to get RH bill supporters to see your side of the story, are you, dear sir? What with your name -calling and all. It always amuses me when somebody with horrible grammar and spelling skills call other people “stupid.” Thanks for making me smile.

        I’ve met a lot of decent Christians in my life, and many more atheists, but I have yet to meet a smart person who’s against the RH bill.

        We have read the bill. We know what it’s about. We know what we’re fighting for. You, my dear friend, are labouring under the delusion that you are fighting for your country by making sure employers don’t shell out a little bit more for RH care. You are not part of the top ten percent. You never will be. And the top ten percent will not thank you for the work that you do.

        The sources you cite are worthless. They’re frickin’ personal blogs with anti-RH bill people spouting the propaganda that they’ve been fed in the hopes that the rest of us would be infected. I can cite a hundred sources here as to why and how universal health care works. I can cite a hundred sources that state why a reproductive health care bill like the one we are trying to pass will help the country in the long run. I can give you the names of several of my friends (employers) who are willing to pay a little extra to ensure the health and well-being of their workers. But I have to work and so I leave you with your fingers, your tiny mind, and this:

        http://www.google.com

        i’m pretty sure you can figure out the keywords yourself. i don’t think you’re stupid – just very, very mad and for all the wrong reasons.

      • February 23, 2011 3:38

        Well, I don’t deal with idiots and TROLLS like you… Trolls can always make fantastic stories and claims. Judging from your highly idiotic comment, you’re nothing but an IGNORANT RH bill supporter. I have yet to see your defense of the bill.

        What do you know about the bill?

      • February 23, 2011 3:38

        ALLERT: Trolls on the loose!!!

        “It always amuses me when somebody with horrible grammar and spelling skills call other people “stupid.” Thanks for making me smile.”

        Care to show some? In a spontaneous exchange of ideas on a comment section, it’s very much possible that one can overlook syntax and spelling and even grammar errors.

        “We have read the bill.”

        No, you didn’t!

        “You are not part of the top ten percent. You never will be. And the top ten percent will not thank you for the work that you do.”

        That comment shows that you’re nothing but a HIGHLY INSECURE bimbo… You simply missed the context of the blogger’s article and responses.

        I have yet to see a smart creature who’s able to properly and logically argue his/her case in favor of the bill.

      • March 2, 2011 3:38

        Hey Meg, you are truly an ignoramus bitch. Why don’t you go to North Korea and see how that Big Government treats you’re bitch kind.

  14. February 25, 2011 3:38

    I also have to meet a smart person who is for the bill. Get that Meg. Most of you are not pro-poor, like what you claim, but you are just for the bill because you’re atheists and freethinkers who HATE the Church.

    Is it fun to hate the Church Meg? That’s what you want to perpetrate, right? That only people of the Church are against the Bill, so you can continue supporting the Bill and hating the Church at the same time.

    By the way, being an atheist does not mean you are an automatic supporter of the bill. This blog’s owner is atheist but he sees the bill is chock full of holes.

    Read the bill again and get back to me. You also need to study law, to see why it will breach many of our rights.

  15. February 25, 2011 3:38

    I’ve been thinking that if one’s a true atheist, he or she will never support this bill.

    Some are just Church-haters and/or posers. Thanks for this blog sir. Pang mulat talaga.

  16. PROLIFE PHILIPPINES permalink
    March 6, 2011 3:38

    Greetings in the name of the God, Lord Almighty, Ruler of all Heaven and of Earth

    It saddens me to read such hatred. Even though I know deep in my heart that the Lord is using you as an instrument of his divine will. You may not not it or even admit it to yourself but the Lord works in mysterious ways and even in your lust for violence and horrid words, he still makes use of your efforts to undermine the evil that is the RH Bill.

    I only pray that in time, you will come to realize that we are only like ants beneath his omnipotent might and nothing we do can escape his notice. Pride comes before the fall. Remember that. I only pray that He, in his infinite goodness, will inspire you to see that everything we say or do only serves to glorify his almighty Name.

    Your sister in the Lord,
    Josie

    • March 6, 2011 3:38

      LOL!

  17. Da Killar permalink
    March 23, 2011 3:38

    Dami talagang tanga sa intarwebs.

  18. March 23, 2011 3:38

    Here’s an EPIC FAIL blog written by a pro-RH bill moron… http://aristogeek.wordpress.com/2011/03/23/a-pro-rh-bills-epic-fail-blog/

  19. Jayvee permalink
    March 28, 2011 3:38

    So show us the provision where the RHB supports abortion

    • March 28, 2011 3:38

      FYI, I am very in favor of abortion. Use my blog’s search engine and then type abortion.

      • November 17, 2011 3:38

        If I may, abortion steps on the rights of the person inside the womb. I think you will be contradicting your own principles if you support it.

  20. Jayvee permalink
    March 28, 2011 3:38

    And if you think taxation is a burden and thievery, why don’t you go build your own nation where there are no taxes and there are no rules to make reproduction beneficial to society? Let’s see if you last a year. By integrating yourself in society, you permit yourself to be under the rules. You don’t like it, you can always get out and build your own island of utopia.

    • March 28, 2011 3:38

      That’s exactly the no-man-is-an-island rhetoric of the leftists. First, read the bill and then understand its provisions, statist. Then get back to me. Integrating oneself into a society does not mean you have to advocate the enslavement of your neighbors. That implies that so long as a society wants to be ruled by dictatorial edicts, then that’s just fine and you have to permit yourself to be under the rules. That’s the mentality of savages and the people in most dictatorships like Nazi Germany, Russia and Maoist China who simply accepted the tyrannical rules of their despots on faith. Living in a society does not mean we have to behave like animals. What you said implies that so long as the majority decides, then the government has all the power to implement any immoral and impractical proposal or law. How is this RH bill beneficial to our society? Try to read my blogs to know where I’m coming from before you make some irrational, illogical arguments.

    • March 28, 2011 3:38

      May I ask: Are the intents and provisions of the RH bill to be achieved merely by taxation?

  21. March 28, 2011 3:38

    Dear future reader,

    This entire article is just a rant with no intellectual arguement whatsoever, just garbage disguised under impressive sounding words to mask the fact they carry no weight. Please for the sake your intelligence skip this article and read something worthwhile…

    • March 29, 2011 3:38

      Here’s the tactic of these RH bill freaks and imbeciles: If you can argue properly or interpose a logical, sound argument, TROLL!

      These people are really sick in the mind!

  22. condom permalink
    March 29, 2011 3:38

    hahahahahaha fuck off and rant properly next time. what a waste of time, both yours and mine.

  23. September 3, 2011 3:38

    I have noticed some who use religion against anti-RH bill but I’d say it is completely idiotic. I am an atheist and yet I disagree with the bill. Why? Because for so long people have been trying to blame new life(or population) as some kind of a bad thing. I don’t know if these people are just emotionally sad or scarred but I guess most of us are making ourselves look strong by passing laws that doesn’t necessarily help us much. You can disguise the word abortion to contraceptives but it doesn’t matter because we are made to believe that law of supply and demand or whatever are ABSOLUTE factors to the balance in economy. When are we going to learn that NOTHING is absolute. Whatever laws, no matter how many there are, the world can never be a utopia everybody’s been dreaming about, but of course all we can do is make it a little less horrible than it is now.

    RH bill can be a law that may lead for improvement or for the worsening of our current situation. No one really knows, the bill is turning into something that DIVIDES us and not many notice that.

  24. Blah permalink
    October 3, 2011 3:38

    You say it’s a friendly letter but you call them freaks and stupid? You people are the epitome of hypocrisy and the main reason why our society is still stuck in a medieval dark hole. Good luck, man. Burn in hell with your “god”.

    • October 3, 2011 3:38

      I think they’re freak and stupid. That’s actually a very generous description of the pro-RH bill creatures. They’re more than freak and stupid…

      uLOL! I’m an atheist. It’s funny how this bill made you so stupid. Not all opponents of the bill are relidiots, moron. And the bill is NOT a religious issue; it’s a secular issue, MORON. That’s what you don’t understand. I’m more atheist than you.

      Read this… https://fvdb.wordpress.com/2011/03/28/im-an-atheist-and-i-oppose-the-fascist-rh-bill/

  25. Blah permalink
    October 3, 2011 3:38

    You’re an atheist? you even know what that means? LOL. You make me laugh, you imbecile. Go fuck your mom. Oops, don’t use a condom, okay? bet you’ll love that.

    • October 3, 2011 3:38

      You idiot. You don’t even know what you’re talking about. I’m in favor of the use of condoms, but I oppose the government subsidy of condoms.

      Here’s what I just said in this group… http://www.facebook.com/groups/the.ap.crowd/?id=207389129326596&notif_t=group_activity

      “Well, both the relidiots and the pro-RH bill ass-theists have funny/idiotic arguments. They’re both attacking a strawman…

      I’m against the bill, but I don’t believe it’s pro-abortion. In fact, I’m in favor of abortion (as a personal choice of the woman involved and not to be funded and/or encouraged by the government).

      The pro-RH bill ass-theists thought the use of contraceptives is disallowed in RP, as they claimed women and families are being deprived of their RH rights.

      There are better, rational, solid arguments against the bill.”

      Both the relidiots and the stupid pro-RH bill ass-theists keep on arguing over nothing. The bill is a secular issue, period.

      But both want a welfare state. The relidiots want a Catholic welfare state that follows revelation and their god’s commandment. Proof? The anti-condom ordinance in Alabang. The pro-RH bill fanatics want a modified socialist type of welfare state wherein the government provides anything that’s considered “essential” or “vital” to people’s survival. I don’t know their concept of essential, but it seems that anything that’s essential (like education, food, health care, transport, etc.) could be and should be provided by the state, if the statists voted for it. Everything could be subjected to a public vote under their welfare system… and anything can be justified by the Constitution. That’s democracy, which I oppose.

      Read my other blogs to educate yourself, MORON… https://fvdb.wordpress.com/2011/05/18/the-rh-bill-miracles/

      • October 3, 2011 3:38

        From the link https://fvdb.wordpress.com/2011/05/18/the-rh-bill-miracles/

        “Suddenly, more and more people became idiots and morons… It’s amazing how the RH bill turned lots of Filipinos into a herd of mindless, religion-hating, pro-big government nuts. Why? They argue that if you’re against the bill, you’re a Catholic. They think that it’s a religious issue, disregarding the fact it is, in reality, an ideological/intellectual issue.”

  26. Patricia permalink
    August 21, 2012 3:38

    Wow, ang yayaman naman ng mga Anti-RH supporters! Kaya hindi niyo naiintindihan ang kahirapan ninanarasan ng mga taong kailangan ng tulong na to.

    And HELLO, RH BILL DOESN’T SUPPORT ABORTION. Abortion is still ILLEGAL. I thought you said you were “informed” about the RH Bill. At least those who expressed their support towards the bill have ACTUAL and FACTUAL basis and facts on WHY they support the bill.

    Your reasons are petty and a turn off.

    Calling someone stupid or a freak doesn’t make you more superior by the way. I shall pray for your soul, may God bless you. HAHA

    • August 21, 2012 3:38

      According to Planned Parenthood in US, around 54% of those who opted for elective abortion are birth control practitioners.

      Poverty is not caused by unregulated population – it’s poor governance.

      And what are the actual facts of those who are supporting the RH Bill? Care to mention some?

    • August 21, 2012 3:38

      Another emotion-filled comment. Poverty in RP is not caused by so-called overpopulation. It’s caused by the government’s repressive economic policies. The issue of poverty is an economic issue. You cannot defeat it by simply passing laws and welfare programs. In fact, passing a welfare program like the RH bill is like pouring a truckload of kerosene on the fire (poverty). What this country needs is true economic freedom. We need to open our country to foreign investors to trigger job creation and create opportunities for Filipinos. We’re now in the 21st century wherein technology transfer and sharing determines nations’ survival. In reality, it is the RH bill that is pro-poor and anti-women. Like I said in previous blogs, the RH bill, in fact, debases, insults women, as it regards them as inferior and weak beings.

  27. Kestah permalink
    September 9, 2012 3:38

    LOL. You people focus more on the blogger’s insults. It’s only offensive if you took it.

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