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A Challenge to My Critics!

July 28, 2010

ATTENTION! To my very passionate, emotional critics, please do not expose your idiocy. Argue properly. Raise your objections in a rational way. Don’t be so stupid. Don’t show your hippyish mentality. Your actuation, behavior is painfully hilarious and appalling.

A blog commenter said: “Just one question Froi, Im just curious so please answer with all honesty. Did you took the ACET or the UPCAT? Did you pass?”

I consider such a question so pathetic, invalid and bereft of self-respect and of reason on the part of those who try to adduce this

"Mediocrity” does not mean an average intelligence; it means an average intelligence that resents and envies its betters."

"Mediocrity” does not mean an average intelligence; it means an average intelligence that resents and envies its betters."

monstrosity. But I consider it my act of charity to reply to this message. I also received the same pathetic imputation  from my Ateneo hippie-critics when I wrote my academic bigotry blog last year. But since you’re so curious about it, let me answer it by re-publishing what I posted on my FB wall yesterday:

“Did I not pass the UPCAT (and ACET for that matter)? Well, enrolling at UP (and Ateneo for that matter) never ever crossed my mind in the first place. I’m really amused by this argument from intimidation, which simply means an act of ‘involuntary surrender…’”

… and this:

“Some people said last year I took on Ateneo with my ‘academic bigotry blog’, this year I’m taking on UP and public schools with my anti-public education blog… when will I attack my school. For their information, we had a weekly attack on my school when I was the EIC of our weekly campus organ. I believe the campus paper caused the removal of a high-ranking school chancellor, professors, and school officials.”

And commenting to an FB friend who said- “People get too emotional about their schools……like people get emotional in their race and religion……How collectivistic…”- I wrote wrote the following:

“I call it an irrational, unearned pride… There’s nothing wrong about being proud of one’s school as long as you consciously know where that “pride” is coming from. I’m reminded of Quentin Daniels, the enterprising engineer of Atlas Shrugged, who consciously knows how great Patrick Henry University is. He knows that his alma mater is great not because his professors said so, but because he’s consciously aware it performs the real objective of education: to teach a student how to live his life—by developing his mind and equipping him to deal with reality. This is not what most elite universities do- they indoctrinate their students to be more obedient to an established social order, to a collective deity they call “great society.”

Hence, I consider such a pathetic monstrosity invalid, envious, mediocre, malicious, and bitter, because ever since I decided to turn this site into a political-philosophical online crusade, I made it my personal objective to comment on, demolish and expose some of the fallacies, lies, myths, and stupidity in our society. I started with political and social commentaries. But then I realized that there is one definite source of these myths, lies, fallacies, stupidity and mediocrity: the Philippine education sector as a whole. This is why I’ve been saying that ideas matter, and that the breeder, the propagator, the conditioner and the producer of most evil, invalid, dangerous ideas are our universities.

Where did former President Gloria learn her Keynesian economics and big-government politics? Where did most of our politicians get their mediocre, altruistic and self-immolating policies? The country’s universities, especially the so-called elite ones, are a threat to this country and to the freedom, lives, and limbs of its people.

Before you speak of some nonsensical, highly outrageous claim, which is clearly a by-product of your mediocrity, please know that I consider “school” very insignificant. Like most of my American friends who believe that Harvard U is the greatest threat to America, I believe that most of our elite educational institutions are doing our country a great disservice. In fact, such an invalid point- that I wrote this piece because I failed to pass the UPCAT- is a clear manifestation of empty arrogance, of academic bigotry. Yes, it’s a sign of academic insecurity and mediocrity.

So your guilty charge is that I wrote this piece because I didn’t pass the UPCAT or that I failed to enter UP for the matter? This is what I have to say: I am very much glad- and so proud- I’m not from UP and never had any plan to study there. It’s an advantage on my part. In fact, I suggested to a friend who plans to study economics to try other private schools (Ateneo excluded) and just read the right books, which are definitely not part of the Philippine curriculum. I also made the same suggestion to a classmate who plans to take master’s in International Law after finishing law school: to take it abroad. But I believe that if there’s a group or class of students who deserve to study at UP, it would be those who know and believe in the ideals of free-market capitalism.

I challenge you all then- you whom I consider the “seeds of evil”, if you know what I mean- to express your refutation in a proper manner instead of resorting to personal, ad hominem attack. I tell you, I’m very much thrilled whenever I see that my opponent resorts to personal attack, because it simply shows he’s got no valid, no sane argument to adduce. Show me that you’re from UP and that you deserve your passing the UPCAT. Show me that you’re entitled to a higher education subsidy! Prove that you have the right to the earnings of the people who work and produce! Prove that you have the right to turn the government into a legalized thief or extortionist. This is my challenge.

90 Comments leave one →
  1. Miguel Garcia permalink
    July 28, 2010 3:38

    hey froi, i corrected the “took” to take..🙂

  2. UPian permalink
    July 28, 2010 3:38

    you did not even answer the first question. if you think of your reply as a work of charity, then i tell you, it’s not even near that word. YOU DONT EVEN KNOW HOW TO ANSWER SIMPLE QUESTIONS.

    • July 28, 2010 3:38

      What’s the first question anyway and why do you think it’s not sufficiently answered? What should be the answer? In the first place, walang kuwenta ‘yong question. It’s not even part of this discussion. Bitter ka ba kai stupid ka? Kindly point out kung alin ang hindi nasagot at ano dapat ang sagot.

      Base sa nabasa ko. The blogger answered that NO, “enrolling at UP never ever crossed my mind in the first place,” which means he didn’t take UPCAT at all or ACET.

      Di ba maliwanag pa sa araw ang tanong: “Did you took the ACET or the UPCAT?” Ang sagot ng blogger, ang pag-enrol sa UP or Ateneo ay ni hindi nasagi sa kanyang isipan. Tagalog na yan para ma-gets mo kasi maliwanag na STUPID ka.

      Sagutin mo tanong ko. Alin ang hindi nasagot at ano dapat ang sagot.

      At: pakisagot ang challenge!

      MGA BOPOLS KAYO TALAGA LAHAT! Puro kayo yabang at ere wala naman pala kayong kuwenta lahat!

      • July 28, 2010 3:38

        @ UPian

        I think Mr. Libertarian sufficiently answered your concern. If you want to play things up, go for it. I know you have all the courage and the guts since you’re an anonymous commenter. I use to comment on other blogs but I don’t do it anonymously because to me it’s a sign of cowardice. I’m not saying you’re a coward, but is it not more formal and more proper to identify yourself? But yes, anonymous commenters are 1000% more sincere than commenters who show their real identity.

        But if you want me to clarify what I stated above, the answer is NO, I never took the ACET or the UPCAT because, I repeat, “enrolling at UP (and Ateneo for that matter) never ever crossed my mind in the first place. ” Is this clear enough? Or you want more since it appears you a BITTER commenter?

        Now, if you no longer have any concern, kindly respond to my challenge and please identify yourself. If you’re so PROUD OF UP, then you must be so proud of your own identity as well. Capisce?

    • PLS permalink
      July 29, 2010 3:38

      It just goes to show that elitism is not confined to the rich. @UPian Get off your high horse!

  3. Miguel Garcia permalink
    July 28, 2010 3:38

    Ok Froi, it seems that you always have the answer to anything and everything🙂

    Besides writing and intellectually criticizing almost everything, do you have other concrete actions that you take to make atleast the Philippines a better place for Filipinos? Or you just write, blog and rant?🙂

    • July 28, 2010 3:38

      I have plans for the future. This is my way of expanding my knowledge and improving my writing style and skills. Too bad there was no internet, Facebook, or blogs during the time of Ludwig Von Mises, Henry Hazlitt, Ayn Rand, and others… they would have done the same thing… I know what you people think, but what you think is insignificant. What matters most to me is none of your damn business. And by the way… don’t worry, I’m self-employed…

      • Miguel Garcia permalink
        July 28, 2010 3:38

        now you even know what people think?🙂 ah ok so you’re self employed. so, do you help those
        who are poor? do you help those that are hungry, sick, homeless, etc?

        i think whatever you’re writing here is only for yourself. parang gusto mo lng i-prove na tama ka,
        pero in the end, kung tama ka man, it won’t or can not change anything in the greater scheme of things.
        na-satisfy mo lang ung sarili mo na no one won over you when it comes to intellectual debates.

        parang “ok ako pinakamatalino sa buong Pilipinas,ang bobo ng mga hindi naniniwala sa mga paniwala ko-
        -magsusulat pa rin ako para ipakita mga mali ng Pilipinas pero wala ako gagawin pang iba kundi magsulat”

        parang ganun lang ang dating. yung iba dito nauunahan lang ng pagkapikon sa mga sinasabi mo kaya
        mejo lumilihis sa mga comments at namemersonal na.

        well, those are just my observations.🙂

      • July 28, 2010 3:38

        I tell you, Miguel Garcia (if this is your real name because it reminds me of a so corrupt military official whose family enjoyed the life of a multi-millionaire through government sponsorship), it is those who publicly proclaim concern for the poor who niggardly part with their money.

        You said: “do you help those who are poor? do you help those that are hungry, sick, homeless, etc?”

        What makes you say this? I have the most compassion for the poor that’s why I’m advocating for free-market capitalism, which is the sole basis of this education debate. We’re not rich and I don’t believe that I have to live for others. The best way to help the poor is not to be one of them. This is my belief.

        It is the advocates of education subsidy who don’t care for the poor. They are the most anti-poor species in these parts but just don’t know it. The only way to help the poor is to give them free-market capitalist education. I didn’t pay for my tuition in school because of scholarship grants. I have friends who work hard just to finish their studies. I don’t think it is the fault of those who ‘have’ in life that other people are less privileged.

        However, the means by which the advocates of “right to education” try to help the so-called poor is evil and immoral. They want the government to be the provider of people’s needs, forgetting the fact that somebody has to be sacrificed. According to them, it is OK to tax other people so long as it benefits the poor and the not-have. Is this their concept of justice. Is this the way we should help other people? Is this moral?

        In tagalog: “Kung sino pa ‘yong hingi nang hingi, siya pa ang galit.”

        In a free society, helping the poor should be voluntary, and this is not the proper role of the government. The proper role of the state is to protect our rights.

      • Miguel Garcia permalink
        July 29, 2010 3:38

        why froi? can’t find me in facebook or in friendster?🙂

        “I tell you, Miguel Garcia (if this is your real name because it reminds me of a so corrupt military official whose family enjoyed the life of a multi-millionaire through government sponsorship), it is those who publicly proclaim concern for the poor who niggardly part with their money.” – be careful🙂

        anyway froi, if you firmly believe that you have the most compassion for the poor, show it
        through concrete actions! if you really advocate for this and kasi ito ang paniwala mong tama,
        pumunta ka ng Malacanang, o kaya sulat ka kay P. Noy sbihin mo mga ideolohiya mo!

        kasi ang nangyayari is you would write about “how to make the Philippines a better country” ekek
        tapos ano nangyari sa sinulat mo? wala diba? ang naging resulta lng, nkikipag debate ka sa mga taong
        hindi sangayon sa gusto mo at dun na natatapos lahat. if you feel confident that what you are
        advocating for is for the better, e di i-suggest mo sa gobyerno nten, sila ang debatihin mo dude.🙂

      • July 29, 2010 3:38

        @ Miguel.

        I’m sorry but that’s not who I am… I don’t work for free. I believe in a trader relationship. My blogsite tells me who I am.

      • Miguel Garcia permalink
        July 29, 2010 3:38

        that just goes to show why you will not succeed🙂 that just proves my observation that
        you just do this for your own self-gratification🙂 it’s ok, it’s more clear now,
        basa na kita dude🙂

      • July 29, 2010 3:38

        Wishful thinking… Consider it the best charity I could give to a nihilist…

      • alzino permalink
        July 30, 2010 3:38

        Oo dito ka kumikita. Pasikat ka eh. Isa lang naman talaga ang dahilan sa likod nyo eh, ang di pagpasa sa UP.

        Mahihiya ang ampalaya sa’yo

      • July 30, 2010 3:38

        @ Alzino.

        Your behavior is what really disgusts me. It shows our hatred of the good for being the good. That’s not what I’d like to see here. Froivinber should delete all your messages. You are not free to troll here and post nonsensical rants since it’s the blogger’s private property. Get some manner. Being a UP grad, I’m ashamed you’re from UP!

      • alzino permalink
        July 30, 2010 3:38

        @Mike G. Reyes got three words for yah
        “MAKE IT PRIVATE”

  4. IMBA permalink
    July 28, 2010 3:38

    if u want to demolish UP.. then throw also your computer to the trash..

  5. AJ Cruz permalink
    July 28, 2010 3:38

    haha. kung ang pagiging libre ng edukasyon ang sinasabi mo. eh panu ung other public schools? kapag nawalan ng pondo ang gobyerno, lalagyan mo na rin ng tuition pati ang mga elementary schools? di mo ba alam. sa kalagayan ng bansa natin ngayon, maraming umaasa sa mga pampublikong paaralan, sa mga eskwelahan kung saan wlang tuition!

    bat di ka nga pala magalit sa mga taga PUP, and to all other public schools who demand for the support of the government.

    bka nmn insecure k lng? j3j3j3

    • July 28, 2010 3:38

      Here: https://fvdb.wordpress.com/2010/05/14/the-seeds-of-evil-how-communism-infiltrates-public-universities/

      And read my other blogs…

      • AJ Cruz permalink
        July 28, 2010 3:38

        good..

        but it is the governments responsibility to give low-cost education. that’s why they reacted horribly is as if theyre fighting for their lives. if the government fails then it will be too hard for them (students).

        i think u should not blame the universities but rather the government we have..

      • July 28, 2010 3:38

        @ AJ Cruz, whoever you are:

        “but it is the governments responsibility to give low-cost education. that’s why they reacted horribly is as if theyre fighting for their lives.”

        — Under our Constitution, yes, it is the government’s responsibility and this monstrous concept is what is BANKRUPTING this poor nation.

        I have tackled this issue here: Why do we need to separate state from education… https://fvdb.wordpress.com/2010/07/27/separate-state-from-education/

        “if the government fails then it will be too hard for them (students).”

        — The government is failing because of you people who ask too much when there’s no more enough money to sustain our “nanny state.” Read this part in the above link.

        And this is the reason why most of you have this anti-capitalistic mentality, which I call mediocrity: “Salus Populi Est Suprema Lex” is an Evil Concept

        https://fvdb.wordpress.com/2010/07/28/salus-populi-est-suprema-lex-is-an-evil-concept/

      • July 28, 2010 3:38

        Apparently, you think that education is only for those who CAN afford. And you’re living in the Philippines. How socially relevant. Imagine yourself in their case.

        Enlighten yourself a lil bit. History shows that the impoverished continue to suffer misfortune (esp in the agri-sector) cos they’ve been abused by the tyrants ever since God-knows-when. Fast forward to today, they’re still POOR and powerless. Do you really think that capitalism, plus oligarchy and pseudo-democracy, IS working at its fullest with the 80% below-poverty line that we have here in the country?

        The government has to act, and only shutting “socialists” make things worse as they are more enlightened than those who speak laissez-faire as the best solution to the ails.

  6. July 28, 2010 3:38

    Is there anyone who’s courageous enough to take my challenge. Your sickening, stupid rants simply show you know NOTHING!

    • Uh-huh. permalink
      July 28, 2010 3:38

      Yeah, ok, boring. The real reason no one wants to argue with you isn’t because no one is courageous enough to take your challenge. The real reason is because the more discerning ones have already read all the inflamed, indignant comments from the susceptible readers, your dismissive, sweeping statements and reactions and come to a conclusion:

      No one wants to argue the finer points of bigotry with a bigot. It’s boring, and it’s pointless. Also, who the hell gives a damn about this blog? Who the hell are you? UP will stand years after you are dead, and if by some miracle a change does occur in the system, it’s no thanks to you- because for all your ranting you do not have the balls to do anything other than write about how everyone else sucks – oh, how original. I wonder how you can call others mediocre when you are so mindbogglingly predictable. Oh, wait, are you going to dismiss my point saying it’s a personal attack? Boohoo.🙂

      So, no, no namedropping, no textbook quotations, no splitting hairs about economics or politics, simply because you’re boring. While you have points, you kill your own credibility by acting arrogant in your own right, dismissing valid comments, evading argumentative queries and setting no clear premises for your claims. In the bigger scope of things in this country you are meaningless, a small voice in a turbulent storm.

      Nation’s got bigger problems. Get a reality check.

      If you really want to engage in a meaningful argument, do so fairly and objectively, and if you get rants and wrongly spelled comments, don’t stoop to their level and argue based on THOSE points – you already know they’re wrong. Why do you think they keep asking if you passed UP? It isn’t only because they want to dismiss you – they want to see if you are arguing using the same premises they are. Duh. It’s this kind of petty behavior that makes the real UP alumni not take you seriously. We want to see things from your point of view – unfortunately it’s hard to put our heads that far up our own asses.

      • July 29, 2010 3:38

        Bravo!

    • alzino permalink
      July 30, 2010 3:38

      WEH DI NGAAAAAAAA? Kuha ka munang UPCAT. Pag pumasa ka’na, deserving ka nang makipag-argue samin

      • July 30, 2010 3:38

        @ Alzino.

        Whatever you say, whatever you do, what thing is very clear: you’re no match for the blogger. Knowing him, he doesn’t need to take the upcat and study at UP. You’re one of the reasons why UP is being destroyed. If you’re still a student, just study hard and do not extend you stay at UP coz the people pay for your studies. I graduated on time. You should graduate on time. Again, I’m ashamed you’re from UP.

      • alzino permalink
        July 30, 2010 3:38

        @Mike G. Reyes
        When dealing with people, we use the tool which we think would be ‘proper.’
        with this kind of thinking… this is my proper way of dealing
        Oh, I’m not putting up a fight. I’m merely INSULTING AND PESTERING THE BLOGGER.

        Oh, and I graduated on time with outstanding honors.
        Doesn’t matter though, don’t care.
        Finished Post Grad as well.
        Name’s on 4 books.
        Go figure

      • July 30, 2010 3:38

        @ Alzino

        If that’s the case you must be so proud to reveal your identity and tell us who you are. If you’re so proud of UP, then you must be so proud of yourself. C’mon! TELL US WHO YOU ARE. Tell us your REAL NAME, where you work, from where?.

      • alzino permalink
        July 31, 2010 3:38

        I’m not as stupid as you and this blogger. and you actually believed it?!
        No wonder, you and this blogger share the same views.
        It shows.

      • MG Ylaya permalink
        July 31, 2010 3:38

        @ Alzino.

        You said above: “Oh, and I graduated on time with outstanding honors.
        Doesn’t matter though, don’t care.
        Finished Post Grad as well.
        Name’s on 4 books.
        Go figure”

        This is not the proper answer: “I’m not as stupid as you and this blogger. and you actually believed it?! No wonder, you and this blogger share the same views.
        It shows.”

        It simply shows you’re either COWARD or a LIAR! That’s it! Between the two, I believe YOU’RE A LIAR!

  7. AJ Cruz permalink
    July 28, 2010 3:38

    i thinks whats wrong with you hypocrite is that your enclosed in your own shell. you dont view others point. ive read your other blogs and most of them has significant comments but u didnt answer them, it seems that they made you shut and when u post ur reply (to them) is almost just a trash talk.

    and i agree to mr garcia. u pretend that u will be the superman of the philippines. u f*kn idealist, sorry u will never be known for this stupidity.

    try harder man. rofl

    • July 28, 2010 3:38

      It’s because you’re a stupid statist and an ignoramus… We should not be spending a single cent on the education of the future destroyers of this country.

    • AJ Cruz permalink
      July 28, 2010 3:38

      why dont u talk to an economist or a lawyer or to the president. so you can discuss ur “MERE OPINIONS!” and cure this “ill” society. man with this ur not gettin a healthy debate. ull just sharpen ur trashtalking skills and earn your title as the “UP students enemy no. 1”

      i see why you target UP students. ..or so the elites as you say

      • MC Castillo permalink
        July 28, 2010 3:38

        Well, that explains it. AJ Cruz’s grammatically problematic rants show that he knows nothing rolf. Kung taga-UP ka… UP ka nga lol! Wag mo nang patulan tong AJ Cruz na to. Halatang wala namang alam… Kung ano lang narinig niya sa classroom at kabobohang nabasa niya, yun lang ang alam niya…

  8. July 28, 2010 3:38

    I agree with Vincenton. All government schools must be privatized. Public school students are becoming more and more radical. They are a threat to our future. The communists are winning in this social struggle and this is just part of it.

    I’m sick of the idiotic rants of the young statists here from this public school of evil ideology. And yet, they have the guts to say you’re being biased or irrational.

    I say private corporations should stop giving scholarships to statist/collectivist students. They are the future destroyers of this country.

    @ AJ Cruz. You have successfully shown how stupid you are, and you’re just part of the big herd of stupid seeds of evil at UP, if you’re from UP…

  9. July 28, 2010 3:38

    May I re-post here what Libertarian said in the controversial UP post…

    Okay, let’s wrap it up. Based on what I read on this comment section, IT IS PROVEN THAT:
    1. Most UP commenters are STUPID/IDIOT or both!
    2. Most UP commenters are Lefttists/Socialists.
    3. Most UP commenters don’t ever know what they’re talking about.
    4. Most UP commenters are MAYAYABANG, as they adduced such invalid arguments as “hindi nakapasa sa UPCAT,” “hindi ka kasi taga-UP”, etc.
    4. Most UP commenters know nothing about politics and economics.
    5. Most UP commenters are DANGEROUS TO OUR LIVES AND LIMBS!
    6. Most UP commenters are BOBO!
    7. Most UP commenters are BASTOS!
    8. Most UP commenters are TROLLS!
    9. Most UP commenters are a threat to this country and to our freedom.
    10. Most UP commenters are INSANE!
    Therefore, it is for the benefit of this nation and of everybody to PRIVATIZE UP and other public universities!

    • Eto lang tanong ko permalink
      July 28, 2010 3:38

      the only reason why you want that to be true is to prove that you are superior to anyone, in truth no one is superior to anyone else, we only think we are, a man’s worth cannot be summed up in what he knows, he must also feel, interact, therefore be holistic in development, there are things you’ll learn only outside the f4 walls of any room,

    • jejeje permalink
      July 29, 2010 3:38

      eh ikaw ano ka?😀

      santo?

    • Eto lang tanong ko permalink
      July 29, 2010 3:38

      boring😀

    • Chumpy permalink
      July 31, 2010 3:38

      Benefit of the whole nation kung mapiprivatize ang mga state Us at SUCs?

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Rofl. Samahan kita one day. Punta tayo sa “rest of the nation” tapos sabihin natin yang mga arguments mo. :))

      Sabi ng professor ko sa Ethics,
      Understanding the Theory is good, but practice confirms it.

      Madali gumawa ng arguments out of theories ng mga tao. Trust me, in one day, I debated pro and anti RH bill and I won both debates. Pero in fairness, maganda ang constructive part mo. Medyo shaky lang sa rebuttals kasi hindi mo masyado nasagot yung counter arguments nung mga tao.

  10. Uh-huh. permalink
    July 28, 2010 3:38

    Yeah, ok, boring. The real reason no one wants to argue with you isn’t because no one is courageous enough to take your challenge. The real reason is because the smarter ones have already read all the inflamed, indignant comments from the susceptible readers, your dismissive, sweeping statements and reactions and come to a conclusion:

    No one wants to argue the finer points of bigotry with a bigot. It’s boring, and it’s pointless. Also, who the hell gives a damn about this blog? Who the hell are you? UP will stand years after you are dead, because for all your ranting you do not have the balls to do anything other than write about how everyone else sucks – oh, how original. I wonder how you can call others mediocre when you are so mindbogglingly predictable. Oh, wait, are you going to dismiss my point saying it’s a personal attack? Boohoo.🙂

    So, no, no namedropping, no textbook quotations, no splitting hairs about economics or politics, simply because you’re boring and while you have points, you kill your own credibility by acting arrogant in your own right. In the bigger scope of things in this country you are meaningless, a small voice in a turbulent storm.

    Nation’s got bigger problems. Fuck off.

  11. July 28, 2010 3:38

    sobrang baba naman ang tingin mo sa mga students ng public schools. grabe. may alam ka ba talaga sa situation ng eudcation sa pilipinas?

    • July 28, 2010 3:38

      I don’t think that way, only I believe it should be privatized. We have our own personal choices… That’s it. We are free to choose!

      • another UPian. permalink
        July 29, 2010 3:38

        @anti UP, sino pinapatamaan mo? ung blogger? o ung sarili mo?

        anyway..

        “I don’t think that way, only I believe it should be privatized. We have our own personal choices… That’s it. We are free to choose!”

        if this is the biggest point you are trying to say, pre, GISING!
        wake up to the reality na kapag ginawang private ang mga pampublikong unibersidad,
        ano pang point ng “freedom to choose”? masyado ka kasi encased sa buhay mayaman, have you ever tried stepping down sa economic level ng isang isko? pre, kung anong binibigay sa yo ng mga magulang mo ay pang isang buong semestre na na pambaon ng karamihan sa amin. Ang sinasabi mong mga personal choices sa katayuan mo ay hanggang choices nalang talaga para sa mga estudyante na hindi ka kapantay.

      • Samuel Huntington permalink
        July 29, 2010 3:38

        Why don’t you give a proper reply to that comment entitled “Uh-huh.” up there? I’m sure all of us would like to see you try. You seem to have been evading it for the most part of this thread.

      • July 29, 2010 3:38

        I think I have to follow my friend’s advice: “Life is too short to waste on people who are impervious to reason.” And you are impervious to reason.

  12. Tsongky permalink
    July 28, 2010 3:38

    I think you’re arguments are solely based on Western ideologies.

    If you think that you’re-oh-so radical then present a resolution to your posts.

    Kaya hindi umaasenso ang Pilipinas dahil sa mga taong tulad mo. Puro salita, puro teorya. Wala namang praktika.

    ALL WE DEMAND IS RESPECT!

    In the first place, you started the whole bashing. There would be no outrage if you hadn’t posted this nonsense.

    Sometimes, it pays to shut up.

    • July 28, 2010 3:38

      “I think you’re arguments are solely based on Western ideologies.”

      So kindly tell me what are the eastern, southern, northern ideologies then? The father of Western civilization is Aristotle, and he’s the greatest philosopher on earth because of his epistemology, metaphysics, and ethics. If that’s your assertion, that what I’ve been telling you is a Western ideology, let me clarify then that it is an Aristotelian Western ideology, which means that the proper morality for man must hold man as its standard of value and that the proper politics or social system must be grounded in reality and the law of identity. I have extensively discussed this matter.

      I have to post this thing because it is TRUE! UP and other public schools must be privatized! That education is not a right! Why do you resent truth? I have no regret posting all these blogs! I don’t care about your nonsensical bashing and stupid rants. They have no value at all because they’re all WRONG! A wrong premise- a wrong argument- an invalid concept- an evil idea- is VALUELESS! In fact, most comments are so painfully hilarious…

      • Tsongky permalink
        July 28, 2010 3:38

        bakit mo ba pinagdidiinang LEFTISTS ang mga estudyante ng UP?

        OO AKTIBISTA AKO DAHIL ALAM KONG KAILANGANG MAIPAHAYAG SA NAKARARAMI ANG TUNAY NA IPINAGLALABAN NG UP. OO, ISA AKO SA MGA NAGRALLY SA UP BAGUIO PERO ANG PAGRARALLY NAMIN AY ISANG MAPAYAPANG PAMAMARAAN. HINDI PAREHO ANG PAGIGING ISANG AKTIBISTA AT PAGIGING LEFTIST. WE DON’T COMPLETELY OPPOSE WHATEVER THE GOVERNMENT SAYS OR DOES. ALL WE WANT IS FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO HEAR OUR BATTLECRY. WALANG NAGRARALLY KUNG WALANG KAKULANGAN SA PAMAMAHALA. WE HAVE BEEN ENDURING FOUR YEARS OF OPPRESSION SINCE TOFI WAS PASSED. AND THAT IS WHAT WE WANT FOR THE NEW ADMINISTRATION TO TAKE NOTICE. WE ARE CHALLENGING HIM TO PROVIDE PROPER BUDGET ALLOCATION FOR EDUCATION.

        HINDI KAMI LEFTIST, YAN ANG TANDAAN MO.

        I think you’re being apathetic. Hindi gaya mo, hindi ako elitista. pero nakakayanan kong makapagbayad ng tuition sa UP dahil sa STFAP. Pero hindi pa rin yun sapat, nag-aaply pa rin ako ng student loan maitawid ko lang ang aking pag-aaral.

        as I previously mentioned, YOU HAVE TO BE POOR AND BE A UP STUDENT to understand what we are fighting for. Since you’re not, you’re not in the position to judge us.

        and by the way, kumuha rin ako ng Philo subject. Kilala ko rin yang mga pinagmamalaki mong philosophers. Kilala ko rin si Ayn Rand mo and you’re veneration of her work is blind. Kilala ko si Kant, si Hobbes, si Habermas, si Voltaire, si Rousseau, si Machiavelli, Marx, Adorno etc.

        and eastern philo you say? Nehru, Confucius, Sun Yat-Sen, Wu Enyu at Sitong.

        Kaya wag kang mapagmalaki.

      • July 28, 2010 3:38

        The dominant ideological trend at UP is socialism or leftism. Satur Ocampo once said in his speech at UP that the overarching goal of the left is to turn this top public institution of indoctrination into a “neo-Liberal terrain.” That is, he wants UP to be the nucleus of Philippine liberalism, which means the propagator of leftist ideals. Source: https://fvdb.wordpress.com/2010/05/14/the-seeds-of-evil-how-communism-infiltrates-public-universities/

        The right to education or the right to subsidized education is fundamentally a leftist ideal. I repeat what I stated in my earlier blog https://fvdb.wordpress.com/2010/07/27/dealing-with-mediocrity/:

        We are now facing our dead end. This is now the culmination of the statist policies of our even bigger government. The country has over P4 trillion foreign debt due to the Keynesian mentality of former Pres. Gloria Arroyo. But the people must share the blame for their collective ignorance and stupidity. Mrs. Arroyo should not solely take the blame. The people- especially those who passionately call for more subsidies, more government services, more government spending, more etcetera- are MORALLY GUILTY. They want more of these “nanny state” services yet they let out a howl of anguish and of protest when the government realizes that it can no longer bear the burden of too much gift-giving and redistribution of wealth. This is the primary reason why we have the E-Vat and more taxes. This is the primary reason why our top Keynesian economist, Gloria Arroyo, turned to foreign lenders because she was afraid to increase our tax rates owing to her un-popularity.

        Yes, we must face our collective dead-end. That’s why our new president, Kuya Noy, must be ready to lose more hair than usual. But we have indoctrinated students and stupid liberal tutors who just can’t understand economic and political realities. It’s a pity that too many of them point to the 1987 Constitution and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights when I attacked the “right to education.” The people who drafted the Constitution are morally guilty for bringing us the kind of extreme disaster that we now about to face. Many societies have failed in the past due to the collective ignorance of their leaders. What they fail to realize is that this “right to education” monstrosity was perfectly practiced by Hitler, Lenin, and Stalin. The “right to education” is being perfectly applied in all slave pens on earth like North Korea, Cuba, China, Venezuela, etc. Not only did the murderous dictators guarantee universal right to education, but universal right to health care, food rations, and other basic commodities as well.

        Yes, this monstrosity- “the right to education”- has no place in a free society! It’s freedom in education which we need and should demand, not right to education.

      • alyzza permalink
        July 29, 2010 3:38

        I have to post this thing because it is TRUE! UP and other public schools must be privatized!

        Why do you claim your OPINIONS true?

        If you don’t think education is a right, what then do you think is it? A luxury?

        LUXURY:
        something that is an indulgence rather than a necessity
        lavishness: the quality possessed by something that is excessively expensive
        wealth as evidenced by sumptuous living

        wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

        You think education is unnecessary? From where then do you owe your writing skills? I am so sure you were not born with those skills, dear. I know why education seems to be a luxury. It’s because it costs too much when it wasn’t really supposed to cost THAT much.

        Do you know why education becomes harder and harder to afford? So that people will remain uneducated, so there will be people we can call the masa. And where do we hear the word masa? In political advertisements! Tutulungan ko po ang masa. Mahal ko ang masa. These politicians need the masa to believe their lies and put them on a pedestal. Do you now know why education becomes a privilege (or even a luxury)? And you even want to privatize state universities!

        I was enrolled in a private school in my elementary and I knew nothing about the real world until I stepped into a public school in my high school. And my consciousness was even more harnessed when I stepped into a state university. Learning is not limited to the four walls of the classroom; most of it is even done outside. Here I must say that I owe public schools my consciousness.

        Please do not think that your taxes are going to students who walk out from classes to protest. (Seriously, you call these students ‘seeds of evil’ because they perform mass demonstrations?) A rally is a symbol that people are exercising democracy. We act because there is something wrong in the system and we will not cease from protesting until it has been corrected. Read about these achievers so you won’t feel bad about how big you’re losing from your salary. By the way, I have a dad, and two sisters whose salaries get cut for taxes. I think it’s just fair that I get something from their taxes.

        And it’s not us, taxpayers, we have problems about. It’s the government and the capitalist society. You complain about how big your taxes are. Students complain about how small they get from the budget. It’s corruption these students are talking about, not some lame extract-more-money-from-the-taxpayers.

        You seem interesting so I sort of did a little research about you. You claim to have scholarships support your college and that you didn’t pay a single centavo? And may I deduce that you want to privatize public schools and have those not-so-well-off students find a way to get themselves in school? Well, that’s what those students have already done. They worked hard to enter science high schools and/or state universities and worked even harder just so they can graduate from that institution.

        You say you’re a capitalist. So what you do is make rich people richer and poor people poorer? Well my claim can be supported by your desire to privatize public schools.

        Show me that you’re from UP and that you deserve your passing the UPCAT. Show me that you’re entitled to a higher education subsidy! Prove that you have the right to the earnings of the people who work and produce! Prove that you have the right to turn the government into a legalized thief or extortionist. This is my challenge.

        I am from UP and I deserve my passing in the UPCAT. I have the right to taxes because I pay my own too. I need to see what happens to the things I pay for. I follow simple traffic rules. I help victims of natural disasters. I exercise democracy. I fight until the wrong has been corrected. I pass my subjects. I will use the education you have paid for to repay you by working in the Philippines. I will show everyone equal respect. I will not bash other people or institutions, but instead work with them for the common good. By the way, the government is already a thief or extortionist. Have you heard of corruption and extrajudicial killings?

        P.S.

        I think I wrote an article that focused on the philosophy that poisons young people’s minds, and stated that the worst enemy of a civilized society are not the communists or socialists– it is the universities.

        Tell me, do you not owe your school what you have now? Do you regret having been schooled?

  13. Thegreatest permalink
    July 28, 2010 3:38

    froivinber:

    There are a few things wrong with what you are espousing. It is one thing to declare that an institution has failed in its mission, and another to demand for it to be abolished.

    Almost every successful democratic country in the world has a state sponsored education program. Why do you think this is so? It is because an educated people is necessary for a properly functioning democracy. It’s not so much a right to be demanded by the people, but a necessity. How do you think a free market operates? It is partially based on a educated decision-making by a critical mass. Are you saying that only the rich and well-to-do who can afford an education should have access to quality goods and services?

    Institutions like UP and other publicly funded universities serve a critical function: They even the playing field, and that is also what makes a free-market system work properly. Hey, I too read Rand, I too agree with some of her ideas, but to follow your line of thought to its bitter end, you’ll only end up in a situation where the small minority control the large majority, much like most communist states, don’t you think?

    It’s also inaccurate to compare the “right to education” system with what Hitler, Lenin, and other historical ‘monsters’ practiced. Indoctrination is different from education. In fact, I’d say that that’s where UP has shown success as a democratic teaching institution, because rather than having state sponsored indoctrination of ideologies, you have students who are exposed to different (if sometimes radical) viewpoints, and are allowed to express themselves. It’s not fair to point at a tiny (yet noisy) cross-section of the UP culture and student body and declare that the whole thing is a failed exercise. I’d say that yes, UP might have helped cultivate a leftist lean in its students (of which most actually grow out of, I’m sure it was fun, like smoking weed, just don’t inhale, yadiyada), but it’s not so pervasive that the the institution has to be abolished.

    I’d like to pose a challenge in return: How many UP grads do you know are now card carrying members of the communist party? How many do you know can you prove are working to destabilize the state? I’ll wager that for every one you can show me (with proof), I can show you 100 grads who are upstanding citizens who are productive and affluent members of society.

    As an aside, fear-mongering through the use of incendiary name-dropping (hitler, etc.) and comparing present practices to their genocidal actions isn’t going to help credibility. It’s a tactic being used in the US by the extreme rightwing (tea party, Palin, lolz) and even ultra moderates are distancing themselves from it because it’s just plain archaic and incredibly ignorant. Some of your supporters here are quick to label opponents as ‘statists’ and what have you. C’mon, is that really how you win an argument?

    • Eto lang tanong ko permalink
      July 29, 2010 3:38

      if he comments on this, he’ll brand you and dismiss you first. if he doesn’t he’s accepted defeat

    • July 29, 2010 3:38

      First off, I don’t believe in democracy… Check it here. https://fvdb.wordpress.com/2010/07/28/salus-populi-est-suprema-lex-is-an-evil-concept/
      and here… https://fvdb.wordpress.com/2009/08/17/the-moral-base-of-the-filipino-nation-and-philippine%E2%80%99s-intellectual-bankruptcy/

      “Almost every successful democratic country in the world has a state sponsored education program.”

      That’s a lie and a fantastical claim. Do you know what’s happening to USA’s unionized education system? America’s school children have no freedom to choose if they want to enroll private schools. Many parents would like to enroll their kids in private schools but that are forbidden under the law. Ignorance and stupidity also become a rife, as most teachers are incompetent. Better watch this video to educate yourself. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuldG8cataE&feature=player_embedded

      “In fact, I’d say that that’s where UP has shown success as a democratic teaching institution, because rather than having state sponsored indoctrination of ideologies, you have students who are exposed to different (if sometimes radical) viewpoints, and are allowed to express themselves.”

      The good things about UP are now being outweighed by the bad things that it brings to the country. UP is the bastion of radicalization. It’s like a ticking time bomb.

      Read these:
      https://fvdb.wordpress.com/2010/07/27/separate-state-from-education/
      https://fvdb.wordpress.com/2010/07/28/abolish-the-university-of-the-philippines/
      https://fvdb.wordpress.com/2010/07/26/the-evils-of-public-education-why-up-and-other-sucs-must-be-privatized/

      • Thegreatest permalink
        July 30, 2010 3:38

        Speaking of lies and fantastic claims…

        Please prove that children in america are not allowed to attend private schools?

        I know dozens of kids who do. I live in the USA, I was educated in the USA, and I’m exposed to this stuff daily? My friends and relatives have children going to private and public schools, and I take an active part in my siblings’ public school PTA. And you based your claims on …. what exactly?

        When you go off on a fantastic tangent like that, how do you expect the rest of your argument to hold water? And sheesh, the video you posted was based on things happening in Africa, in poor countries incredibly rife with corruption.

        Every 1st world country I can name off the top of my head has state sponsored primary and secondary education:

        The USA, Canada, Australia, France, Germany, Japan…need I go on? I think I covered most of the continents already? Lies and fantastic claims? I think not.

        And to pursue a point, “The good things about UP are now being outweighed by the bad things that it brings to the country…” please, like I said, lets compare your apples to my oranges. Show me these UP alumnis hellbent on destabilizing the state and I’ll show you my alumnis who are intent on building a better future for it. Deal? If you’ve got more cards in your deck than mine, I’ll gladly eat my words and join you in calling for (however much in vain) the abolishment of the UP system.

      • Eto lang tanong ko permalink
        July 30, 2010 3:38

        inde ka nga naniniwala sa demokrasya eh, that already states that you are already biased and is closed to any argumentation based on democracy, i.e. the constitution and the entire government system of the Philippines. All points made here, however just, are useless/

      • July 30, 2010 3:38

        We have been taught by our teachers and professors, as well us our absurd intellectuals, that the Philippines is a “democratic country.” We face constitutional perils and destructions of our rights because of the notion that democracy is a noble idea. Democracy is nothing but an EVIL idea! But it seems that nobody in this country recognizes the fact that democracy is a mythical idea that must be rejected. Yes, the Constitution states, under Section 1, Article II that “The Philippines is a democratic and republican State. Sovereignty resides in the people and all government authority emanates from them” (emphasis added). Democracy simply means “mob rule” or “rule of the majority.” This means that the majority can vote and abrogate our rights like what is happening today. Democracy is an evil idea conceived in ancient Greece. History tells us that the first victim of “democracy” was Socrates who was condemned by the people to death because of his influence on the youth. This country must be and ought to be a Republican state, period!

        —>>> https://fvdb.wordpress.com/2010/07/28/salus-populi-est-suprema-lex-is-an-evil-concept/

  14. Yeah UP student permalink
    July 29, 2010 3:38

    Dear fellow Iskos and Iskas, Let this blog banish into oblivion. He can rant all he want but our university will live generations. He has no audience but himself. Next blog please.

  15. July 29, 2010 3:38

    puta ka!

  16. July 29, 2010 3:38

    mamatay ka na sana!Ulopon ka!
    yo are dumb!ambobo mo!

    • Eto lang tanong ko permalink
      July 29, 2010 3:38

      hahahhahaha ang saya talaga😀

  17. Alex permalink
    July 29, 2010 3:38

    Naisip ko lang, kung hindi dapat nag-eexpect ang education ng budget sa government so it should be the same para sa ibang sangay o aspeto ng gobyerno. Hindi rin dapat nagdedemand ng budget ang militar para sa depensa natin kahit sobrang magkagulo na sa bansa at delikado na buhay nila. Hindi rin dapat nagdedemand ang mga tao ng para sa kanilang kalusugan kahit pa may dumating na sobrang tindi na ng mga sakit. At di rin tayo dapat magdemand ng pagkain sa gobyerno kapag nagugutom na tayo. Gawin nating private ang lahat ng sangay at hayaan ang mga nakakaafford lng na makinabang sa mga serbisyong ito. Kung di ako nagkakamali, sinasabi sa konstitusyon na ang edukasyon dapat ang pangunahing dapat pagtuunan ng budget ng bansa at kung mismong yung edukasyon e hindi makikinabang sa gobyerno, mukhang dapat e gawin nating private na lahat tutal, lahat ng ahensyang naglilingkod sa tao e magdedemand ng budget mula sa gobyerno. Kawawa naman ang gobyerno. At dahil di naman tayo paglilingkuran ng gobyerno, wag na tayo magbuwis. Tanggalin na lang natin ang gobyerno para di na sila makawawa. Para di na sila i-demand na paglingkuran tayo. Well, naisip ko lang.

  18. iskolar permalink
    July 29, 2010 3:38

    The worst part of this blog is how the blogger generalizes UP students. Totoo, marami kung sa marami ang “seeds of evil” ang UP na sinasabi mo. Wala namang nagsabing lahat ng produkto ng UP ay perpekto at hindi nakakagawa ng pagkakamali. Pero sinubukang mo bang bilangin kung ilan ang mabubuting bagay na nagawa ng mga produkto ng UP? Marami din naman. Mas madami pa sa sinasabi mong ‘madami’. Mahirap mag-quantify.

    At para sagutin ang challenge mo, proud ako sabihin na deserving ako pag-aralin ng mamamayang Pilipino sa maraming paraan. Hindi ako corrupt. Hindi porket ginagawa na ng lahat, gagawin ko na din. Inaayos ko ang mga papeles ko (NBI clearnce, lisensya, passport) ng hindi nagpapatong sa mga opisyal ng gobyerno. Sumusunod ako sa batas trapiko. Nagbabayad ako ng tamang buwis. Nagboboluntaryo akong tumulong sa mga nangangailangan (GK, Ondoy incident, etc). Nag-aaral ako mabuti. Hindi ko sinasabi na lahat ng UP students ay gumagawa nito, pero alam ko na madami ding iskolar ang kumikilos kahit sa maliliit na paraan para makatulong sa bayan. Marami sa mga pananaw ko ay impluwensya ng mga propesor ko. Kaya alam kong hindi totoo ang paratang mo na puro makakaliwa ang nagtuturo sa UP.

    Humihingi ako ng paumanhin, bilang bahagi ng Unibersidad, kung sa tingin mo ay mayayabang at arogante kami. Pero hindi rin tama na sabihin mong bobo, trolls, insane, dangerous at kung ano pa man ang halos lahat ng tiga-UP. (Hindi ako sigurado kung yung blogger pa ba nag-comment nito.) Ang pangit kasi na nagsisiraan pa tayong mga Pilipino kesa nagtutulungan. Isa sa mga dahilan kung bakit hirap umangat ang bansa natin.

    • Eto lang tanong ko permalink
      July 29, 2010 3:38

      Saludo po ako sa inyo at sa tingin ko naman po khit anu pang mga ideolohiya at paniniwala mayroon ang bawat isko at iska, or any student of the public system for that matter, gumagalaw ang lahat pra sa kapwa at sa bayan, nakita ko na po ang sinasabi ko sa iba’t ibang pampublikong hayskul at elemetarya noong mga ngdaan na bagyo, khit saan mang parte ng Pilipinas, tutulong at tutulong ang bawat mag-aaral sa kapwa pinoy at sa bayan. Ang nakakalungkot lang ay hinde lahat ang sumusunod sa batas. Inde nagkulang sa pagtuturo ng pagkamakabayan pero nagkulang sa pag-aassociate ng pagsunod sa batas at sa pagkamakabayan.

  19. July 29, 2010 3:38

    I don’t know what to say. I admit that. You raised a lot of arguments, and I’m not really learned enough to understand politics and economics and all your claims. I am, by the way, from UP. I’m telling you before you ask.

    I am a little offended by your posts, yes, simply because I am from UP and you are attacking my school. It also bothers me how you use such big words, which are in my opinion highfalutin, but it might be natural to you. It’s not my call I guess.

    And I don’t think you can blame people for posting ad hominem, simply because you are guilty of it too. You throw back insults when you reply to comments. And commenting insults on Overheard (eg calling UP students trolls) makes you a troll too. You speak of idiocy, you call people stupid and mediocre and arrogant, which is your opinion yes, but they are still attacks even if you speak indirectly and generally. I would call you a hypocrite, but you might be insulted and start attacking.

    Which leads to another point. I think you are generalizing too much. Who’s to say all students from UP are elitist? Who’s to say all politicians from UP are as inept as some are, and who’s to say future graduates would be the same? Have you met all of them? The university is made up of all kinds of people from all over the Philippines, and it only follows that we all have different ideals, which as I have said, can’t be generalized. Perhaps you have only seen angry UP students because you are antagonizing us, and those who are not angry do not react.

    Perhaps it is true that UP teaches Keynesian economics and whatnot. I don’t personally know. But even if the university does, I don’t believe they should be blamed for the actions of some graduates, namely Gloria since you mentioned her. UP also teaches students to learn to think on their own, to analyze, to weigh options. UP students don’t take things as they are taught, so it is highly improbably that Gloria’s ideas were planted there by UP professors.

    I’ll stop here now because I am afraid I’m making a fool of myself, speaking out of turn and about something I know nothing about. You could be laughing your head off right now because of me, in which case I am glad I made you happy in your death. If you reply, I don’t think I’ll ever see it because I’ll forget as soon as I click Submit Comment, but please feel free to express yourself.

    • Alia permalink
      August 5, 2010 3:38

      @Aryan I agree with you there on so many points, don’t worry, you’re not alone.

    • August 5, 2010 3:38

      I appreciate your comment and I’d like to thank you for being civil in expressing your mind.

  20. July 29, 2010 3:38

    I’d like to see more of your “di nakapasa sa UPCAT” rants, hippie, supremacist people… They really amuse me.

  21. Gem permalink
    July 29, 2010 3:38

    I hope that you will of course try to answer some of the interesting arguments of “Uh-uh”…not my comment but his…it would really be interesting to know your points.

    I”m from UP, and yes I’m a fool enough to reply to your blog…I just could not resist after reading most of the comments of others… and especially your ummm…answers to them.

    I”m not gonna argue with your principles nor am i gonna criticize your points. And I believe that your blog will be really popular since we have FB now to spread it. Just remember that your comments/posts, if ever you don’t want, or you don’t appreciate UP students from reading it..then just don’t right it in the first place.

    Hmmm..Im getting too far from the purpose of my comment…I actually just believe that if what you said in some of your post are true..that UP is not the only school you found fault with..then it would be really appreciated if you could post those criticism on this site… So that we will know if we are not only people who hate you right now.

    Oh…and again I’m from UP and I’m not and activist… so i do hope that you could at least change the way you generalize about every one of us being a militant. There are others who believe in their own cause…don’t condemn them for they can show you facts on why they do what they do.

    • July 29, 2010 3:38

      If he’s “fool enough to reply to my blog” then I don’t like to sanction his foolishness. To sanction his foolishness is to stoop down to the level of a worthless hippie.

      • Gem permalink
        July 29, 2010 3:38

        Woah! you replied..do you keep tabs on this post 24/7? haha..anyway…

        what about my other comments about not condemning us non activist and of course you posting your other criticisms of your school???

      • Eto lang tanong ko permalink
        July 30, 2010 3:38

        uh-huh posted those insights, more for the other UP students than for anyone else, by saying those things, it made us think critically and snapped us out from the blind confusion of our emotions.

  22. Dams permalink
    July 29, 2010 3:38

    “Show me that you’re from UP and that you deserve your passing the UPCAT”
    —seriously???? so you do acknowledge our ingenuity….. I though that the subject of UPCAT and other exams are invalid arguments? don’t use it as the foundation of your challenge!

    “This is what I have to say: I am very much glad I’m not from UP and never had any plan to study there. It’s an advantage on my part. In fact, I suggested to a friend who plans to study economics to try other private schools (Ateneo excluded) and just read the right books, which are definitely not part of the Philippine curriculum. ”
    ——UP and Ateneo are the schoold you rather not attend to…hmmm..interesting..
    i thought you also critcized your school? did you also say these words???

  23. UP Supremecist permalink
    July 29, 2010 3:38

    Guys, here’s the Facebook account of this Vincenton!!!

    http://www.facebook.com/froivinber

  24. July 29, 2010 3:38

    Okay, let’s wrap it up. Based on what I read on this comment section, IT IS PROVEN THAT:

    1. Most UP commenters are STUPID/IDIOT or both!

    2. Most UP commenters are Lefttists/Socialists.

    3. Most UP commenters don’t ever know what they’re talking about.

    4. Most UP commenters are MAYAYABANG, as they adduced such invalid arguments as “hindi nakapasa sa UPCAT,” “hindi ka kasi taga-UP”, etc.

    4. Most UP commenters know nothing about politics and economics.

    5. Most UP commenters are DANGEROUS TO OUR LIVES AND LIMBS!

    6. Most UP commenters are BOBO!

    7. Most UP commenters are BASTOS!

    8. Most UP commenters are TROLLS!

    9. Most UP commenters are a threat to this country and to our freedom.

    10. Most UP commenters are INSANE!

    Therefore, it is for the benefit of this nation and of everybody to PRIVATIZE UP and other public universities!

    • Miguel Garcia permalink
      July 29, 2010 3:38

      what’s your name?🙂 don’t ever reveal your true identity, if you
      know what’s good for you🙂 be careful🙂

      • Eto lang tanong ko permalink
        July 30, 2010 3:38

        tsong wag mo nang patulan yan, inde na namin inintinde ang pgcomment nyan sa overheard natin. nkakatraffic lang dun ang mga ganyan

  25. July 30, 2010 3:38

    Natuwa lang ako sa mga blogs at kung paano ito inaatake ng mga napapatambay sa site mo. Well, una, naagaw mo rin ang attention ko dahil taga UP ako.

    Gusto ko lang sabihing superdisppointed ako sa mga tagaUP na walang ibang comment dito kundi ang ipagmalaking UPCAT passers sila at tagaUP sila, eh ni hindi nga nila maprove, in the first place, na tagaUP sila.

    Mga kaibigan at mga kapwa Pilipino, kahit naman ikalat at ipost at irepost ng irepost ang mga blog entries dito na kung sa tingin nyo ay walang kwenta, bakit nyo pa pag-aaksayahan ng panahon? Gawin at ituloy nyo na lang ang ipinaglalaban nyo kung yun ang sa tingin nyo ay tama at makabubuti sa ating bansa! Hindi naman porke’t kalat mabasa ito ni P.Noy ay susundin nya kagad ang sinasabi ng blog na to eh. Let’s all be rational. May kanya kanya tayong paniniwala kaya respeto lang. Hindi tayo nakakatulong sa naghihirap na bansa kung puro bangayan, awayan o murahan lang sa site na to!😦

  26. eufems permalink
    July 30, 2010 3:38

    A Challenge to Everyone:

    Don’t be selfish.

  27. fine permalink
    July 30, 2010 3:38

    Practice what you preach kuya. You say we are emotional and stupid? Look at yourself. Hindi ba kabobohan ang patulan pa ng paulit-ulit ang mga taong alam mo namang hindi mo na mababago ang pananaw sayo?

    Last time I checked, Ikaw ang pinaa emotional dito.

  28. July 31, 2010 3:38

    i see that you find pleasure in playing the devil’s advocate most of the time..
    froi..i hope that you are transparent enough to understand on what you are trying to impose..
    ..para ka lng nagkaroon ng adrenalin rush.,.you tend to suggest things that is so sudden.,and you think ang galing mo!!..tingin mo emphirical itong pinagsasabi mo?! froi i respect your opinion…but please irespeto mu din yung mga reaction ng mga taga UP..andaling sabihin na dapat iprivitize ito..kc wala kang alam sa system..HINDI MO ALAM KUNG GAANO ANG MAAAPEKTUHAN dahil sa mga BOLD PROPOSITION MO..hindi ako nagsstart ng away..but please..PLease..ENGAGE YOURSELF IN A HEALTHY ARGUMENTS..dahil honestly HINDI AKO KUMBINSIDO sa mga premise mo..,THINK BEFORE YOU WRITE..

  29. Jay permalink
    August 1, 2010 3:38

    ADMIN: THIS PUBLIC SCHOOL EDUCATED HIPPIE IS BANNED. You can argue properly without dropping your manners. Are you even EDUCATED?

    https://i2.wp.com/www.searchenginepanel.com/wp-content/uploads/banned.gif

  30. I am a freak permalink
    August 2, 2010 3:38

    ADMIN: THIS PUBLIC SCHOOL EDUCATED HIPPIE IS BANNED. You can argue properly without dropping your manners. Are you even EDUCATED?

    https://i2.wp.com/www.searchenginepanel.com/wp-content/uploads/banned.gif

  31. UP Graduate permalink
    August 2, 2010 3:38

    ADMIN: THIS PUBLIC SCHOOL EDUCATED HIPPIE IS BANNED. You can argue properly without dropping your manners. Are you even EDUCATED? Try harder…

    https://i2.wp.com/www.searchenginepanel.com/wp-content/uploads/banned.gif

  32. August 2, 2010 3:38

    ADMIN: THIS PUBLIC SCHOOL EDUCATED HIPPIE IS BANNED. You can argue properly without dropping your manners. Are you even EDUCATED? Try harder…

    https://i2.wp.com/www.searchenginepanel.com/wp-content/uploads/banned.gif

  33. Gail Wynand permalink
    August 2, 2010 3:38

    Blogger,

    You have a message from Mrs. Wynand. She said, “You’re casting pearls without
    even getting a pork chop in return.”

    Well, congratulations, you’re a now-famous author of an infamous blog.

    But drop it, blogger. It’s futile. Your world doesn’t exist. Or more precisely, man, the kind that we have today, cannot exist in your world. We don’t want to, because we’ve been comfortable living as brothers under the skin.

    I know you’re engaging us in an intellectual discussion but don’t let’s start a debate if you don’t know what you’re saying, let alone if you’re not from our school. You want absolutes? We know one: we’re from UP and you’re not so drop the crap. We’re superior to you by comparison; heck, we don’t even need to compare; we bear the stamp of the intellectual elite. Can you match that? Stop dealing with kids. Stop the polemical style; use a subtler version and write around the idea you want to push and beat the shit out of us. You are twice as intelligent as other commenters here, if you want to hear the word, and you write like a maniac. Make money out of the traffic you’re getting. As your motto says: “be selfish while others are afraid…”

    Selfish. That’s the word. We don’t want it. The root word, self, is what we have
    shunned for good. We’re selfless and we love it. That’s what our parish priest and teachers and parents taught us. It doesn’t matter; we’d never think what our selves, our ego, really desire even at the last hours of our days. We’ll never question it, we’re happy and content with life as it is. Screw life as it should be and ought to be. We’ve existed like this for hundreds of years now. Why disturb the peace of leeches and vampire bats? We like taking
    from Pedro to pay for the needs of Juan. It’s perfectly alright because we benefit from each other. In one way or another, in the present and hopefully in the future. That’s the quintessential brotherhood, blogger. “From each according to his capacity, to each according to his need.” Is that what you want to say?

    You see, I studied in UP. Your parents shared of their taxes to pay for my education and you didn’t even study in UP. I can see why you’re bitter. We have the right to demand from you, as what the Philippine Constitution –an almost sacred covenant-says. Robin Hood is alive, blogger. So alive. He’s dressed in articles of civilization, in articles of our constitution. He’s legally sanctioned. He is the moral standard of this century. Black or white is outdated. Robin Hood is cloaked in gray. But I’m not scared; I’ve learned to live with him. I realized, perhaps, this is the only way man functions. Look around you, do you see people clamoring for their paychecks from you because you can produce and they can’t? You should give. Give education as a right! Education, the great equalizer! All men are born equal, blogger. Ever asked why we have a crab mentality? Because we don’t want anybody to rise above us for we are supposed to be equal. Oh I hate crabs but I love to eat them, crack their shells open and split their pincers just like breaking a toothpick.

    Someday, somebody’s gonna break you and may God bless you in your endeavor.

    GW

    • August 2, 2010 3:38

      Good premises, GW.

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