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Beware of Facebook Impostors by Alleged Rational Human Beings

October 22, 2009

I just learned that between a plain stupid school kiddie and a socialist, the latter is worse and more dangerous… Some socialists who support this bill are ready to use any means possible- and even resort to unethical methods- to silence dissenters…

    Why would someone commit the act of appropriating someone's identity? The photo above shows an "alleged" message of mine.

Why would someone commit the act of appropriating someone's identity? The photo above shows an "alleged" message of mine.

It was reported that “Facebook impostors are proliferating alarmingly as reported by the media.” There are a lot of motivations for some unscrupulous people to steal or appropriate the identity of another person, one of which is to humiliate or silence their critics over a hotly contested social issue. Any act of using, appropriating or stealing someone else’s identity is unethical, immoral and improper. It is at best an act of cowardice.

I think I’m one of the newest victims of shameless Facebook impostors. When I wrote about the “academic bigotry” of some academic bigots, my blog was bombarded with angry comments. That’s just fine. But when I expressed my opposition to a particular legislation on a Facebook group, I was not merely attacked, someone had to drop his/her senses and sanity only to dogmatically defend his/her position. I appreciate the zeal of this impostor, but why resort to using my picture and name to humiliate, discredit or silence me?

If you think it is all right to resort to improper conduct just to silence a critic, then why preach democracy, good values, cooperation, and helping the poor?

For expressing my opinion against the controversial Reproductive Health Bill in an open online group on Facebook, someone, perhaps after running out of rational or irrational arguments, resorted to appropriating my identity for his/her brutish motive, and posted malicious and vicious comments under my name and picture. I found it amusing, but I have to admit I was really shocked. I was shocked to know that there are some self-respecting people who would allow their emotions to decimate their reason and senses, and resort to such an evil, malicious act of stealing someone else’s identity. It is disappointing, and at the same time, shocking to learn that there are some people in an alleged “intellectual” group who would drop their manners and rational (?) convictions just to put another person in bad light. If you think this pathetic, pitiful ploy is not unethical and dishonest, then better stop attending or sending your kids to school. If you think it is all right to resort to improper conduct just to silence a critic, then why preach democracy, good values, cooperation, and helping the poor?

“I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.”

This malicious act should be considered anti-intellectual and anti-reason in the realm of public opinion. It simply reflects the (mis)behavior and attitude of the perpetrator and that of his/her silent supporters and loud co-conspirators. It means that the perpetrator had lost all his senses and rational convictions, and miserably admitted that he couldn’t adduce any rational argument without resorting to such an evil and unprincipled device to stop his/her opponent. There’s something wrong with a person who uses such an “evil ploy” as an “intellectual” weapon, but I believe that those who tolerate it and even express their commendation are more disgusting and objectionable. Between the perpetrator and his supporter, the latter is the greater evil. Why would one resort to appropriating another person’s identity and why would somebody applaud it? Why is it necessary for a forumer or an alleged thinker to drop his manners and resort to this improper conduct, if he honestly thinks he can argue in a cultured manner? Any person who would resort to same pitiful tactic to silence his critics is one who is devoid of self-esteem. Adolf Hitler came to power simply because the  stupid Germans outnumbered the rational ones. The Germans supported the murderous acts of Hitler because they dogmatically thought they embraced the right ideology, and they applauded the manner by which their fuhrer silenced his opponents. In a so-called free society, nobody is to be punished or maliciously discredited by merely expressing a dissenting opinion. No, I will never adopt the same unconscionable, unprofessional ploy. One is not supposed to fight an evil by resorting to same evil act. I firmly believe in the following adage: “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.”

I sent a message to the creator of this group, not to make “sumbong” as he proudly announced to his followers, but to properly inform him about the shameless act of one of his group members. It is just for the sake of formality for any action that I might file in the future. Everybody knows this act of Facebook impostering is unethical, and the person who believes nothing wrong with appropriating someone’s identity for malicious motive so long as you embrace the same political or social position is the most depraved type of living creature.

Between the perpetrator and his supporter, the latter is the greater evil.

The following consists my unabridged letter to Mr. Carlos Celdran, the creator of Facebook group “I SUPPORT THE REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH BILL.”

“I would like to call your attention that a member of your group stole my identity, perhaps in retaliation to my opposition to the controversial RH Bill. We are in a semi-free or democratic country, where free speech is guaranteed by our Constitution. Argument or disagreement is simply part of our democratic process. We are not in a socialist or communist state where freedom of expression is being fervently regulated by the state. We are lucky to have defended this fundamental attribute of our human right.
“Someone was engaging in IDENTITY THEFT, an act that is considered unethical and irresponsible. Someone posted a message on the status board using my name and my identity simply to humiliate and discredit me. I’m telling you that I’m not affected at all. I personally find this act amusing, but I have to admit that I was shocked. I was shocked to know that there are some people who need to resort to such a malicious act to silence anyone who disagrees with them. Their method constitutes coercion; mine is persuasion.
I am informing you for some possible legal action that I might file in the future. I am informing you as the creator of this group. I hope you understand that an issue like this is better resolved in an open forum where everybody is given the opportunity to present his/her position in a civilized, responsible, ethical and clear manner. Also, I must inform you that I have a suspect with respect to the act of identity theft.”

Expectedly, Mr. Celdran replied:

“Well, you reap what you sow. You know what you got into. There is an I OPPOSE THE RH BILL page as well. You should stick to that. But unfortunately, there aren’t that many people on that page.  And it’s run by a grade schooler so the arguments aren’t that exciting. Cheers.”

To some people, identity theft is just "OK." Why? I don't know...

To some people, this unethical act is just "OK" and even commendable so long as you embrace the same collective mentality...

Yeah, right! I’m not surprised by the cold reply of the creator of this group. So it’s now okay to resort to evil methods just to stop critics. This kind of mentality is an abomination, an anomaly in a state which calls itself ‘society.’ Indeed, Celdran’s pathetic reply reflects the mindset of those in a socialist state where the socialist government may use arbitrary and inhumane methods just to silence its critics. And yet, these Filipino socialists who benefit from our semi-free system have the guts to shout the virtues of human rights and freedom. Perhaps they forgot that their socialist dream rejects these cherished ideals which is only possible in a capitalist society. I simply replied the following: “Well, you reap what you sow.” Nice one from an alleged thinker or rational individual. I was simply informing you. Don’t be flattered. This is not personal.” I added:

“Well, you reap what you sow.” This means it’s just OK to resort to such an unethical, illegal and irresponsible act like IDENTITY THEFT. I may be Godless but I will never do such a thing. Not even to a dictator like Gloria. I would never tolerate such a thing, if a friend of mine would resort to the same ploy. This kind of conduct has no room in a civilized world. Resorting to IDENTITY THEFT and tolerating it means you have foregone your values, rational conviction and moral ideals. No, I can criticize someone for embracing socialism, but I won’t resort to such an evil act.”

Really, we are living in a civilized world with alleged civilized people. Some people who are advocating for the enslavement of employers and the taxing of both public and private workers, have miserably dropped their manners.

16 Comments leave one →
  1. Carice Inna Aquino See permalink
    October 23, 2009 3:38

    Whoooo, I get free coverage. xD

    Oh come on Vincey boy, I’m just eighteen and I know how easy it is to make a fake profile of yourself. Why not make one when you’re under immense fire and don’t know how to handle the sitch, then wag you tongue on how you’re wronged. Way to go to end the heat.

    Besides, what happened to you was like something that Facebuko does. It’s to make fun of you. Seriously. Saying that the post isn’t yours is enough, then you go ahead with the discussion.

    But no, instead you blab it out, drum it harder, get more attention to what happened to you. Kind of obvious, I like the pity-grabbing style, but it’s too out of date. It’d be more realistic if you’d just let it pass.

    And it’d be more realistic if you posted another reply to Chynna. >:3

    And to think that I liked your blog about academic bigotry. Tsk, tsk.

    *kisses for joo!*

    • October 23, 2009 3:38

      Wow! The delusion of this girl is truly unbelievable! My God, iha, this is just about a bill to be or not to be enacted by Congress. Don’t take it personally. Is it wrong to blog about the brazen stupidity of some people in that group especially when they engaged in an unethical conduct? And watch your words, iha, don’t just simply accuse someone of creating a bogus account to simply discredit himself! That’s unethical, iha. Are you studying or what? Or else, nakakaawa ka! Don’t involve yourself too much in an issue which you don’t even understand. That’s bad. And please, your ideas or arguments don’t even deserve a single rational answer.

  2. Carice Inna Aquino See permalink
    October 23, 2009 3:38

    And tolerating it doesn’t mean you forgo your values.

    It means you believe that what happened to the person is justified, even though it’s wrong. If you’re so morally upright, why not go ahead and let the world choke of overpopulation and your so-called ultra-capitalism (which you seem to not even know but talk like you do), destroy all laws on death penalties, etc etc etc. And while you’re at it, be a hypocrite and pretend to be pro-life when those in the impoverished areas are dying of hunger because they can’t feed their dozen or so kids, instead choosing to give them meals that would only help them for a day.

    Go cry me a river. The world is bigger than you.

    • October 23, 2009 3:38

      You know what? You should know if you have the personal or intellectual capacity to argue with another person. And another thing, make yourself clear, by stating your arguments in a lucid, logical and grammatically correct manner. You badly need a series of lectures on grammar and sentence construction. I’m not being rude, but if you’re taking me as your “enemy” simply because I don’t agree with your collective mentality, I advise that you better “know your enemy first…” It’s a friendly advice.

    • Myrtle G. Mila permalink
      October 23, 2009 3:38

      This infernal pest talks like a palengkera. Unbelievable! Well, I’ll have to drop my manners to deal with someone who had dropped hers miserably. I’m sick of, well, not only her barbarous and murderous grammar, but also of her flawed, warped arguments. Or did she ever adduce any simple or crude argument? I really pity this girl. Pang-elementary and kanyang pitiful composition hahaha!

  3. Allen R. Samonte permalink
    October 23, 2009 3:38

    You know Vince, if I were you I would give this loud, fucking bitch the dose of her own medicine. I don’t know what she’s up to! She’s now being irrational and insane. My god! It’s just a fucking RH bill issue. Why would someone like this rag let her hormones blast off? And, holy cow! She’s accusing you of faking an account to humiliate yourself? This bitch is really crazy! Mag-tagalog ka na lang, manang! Dumudugo mata ko sa barok mong Tenglish! You’re simply advertising your ill manners!

  4. October 23, 2009 3:38

    “You know what? You should know if you have the personal or intellectual capacity to argue with another person. ”

    Look who’s talking

  5. Atheist Blogger permalink
    October 23, 2009 3:38

    Socialist thugs like Celdran shouldn’t be taken seriously. They’re the ones who really don’t know what they’re talking about and yet taken seriously by stupid folks. Stealing one’s identity is one of the most unethical act that one can do in an online forum to stop a critic. Yes, the author is right, it’s an act of cowardice in its finest. The fuckers who support this fucking bill would like to convert this poor country into a Maoist state. This kind of people must be destroyed intellectually! Ops! Puro pala sila mangmang lahat. I forgot!

  6. PJ Saad permalink
    October 23, 2009 3:38

    again, QQ much Vince? Also do you have any proof that it was a member of the I support the RH bill or do you just think that it was a member?

    @Atheist Blogger I’d like to see your credentials, I’ve seen Carlos’ posts and tweets about all the social work he does at his blog while you hide behind a moniker.

    • Atheist Blogger permalink
      October 23, 2009 3:38

      You know what, fat slob? Common sense would tell you that a member of that socialist group is the perpetrator. Or are you giving me an idea that you did it? It only shows that you can’t accept any kind of criticism and that you would use unethical means to stop your critics. Well, that’s a commonplace in socialist states like China and North Korea.
      I don’t care what this moronic Celdran does. I don’t give a damn about his socialist work. I’m not interested in his autobiography. If you want to hep the poor, do it by yourself and do not include us in your socialist plan.
      By the way, Saad, if you’re that fat slob in that FB group, you sound like an idiot. Ang tanda mo na pero parang bata kang mag-isip. You, guys, should migrate to China or North Korea at public expense.

      • October 24, 2009 3:38

  7. PJ Saad permalink
    October 23, 2009 3:38

    @Atheist Blogger you see I have this thing called a sense of humor and take your criticisms of my appearance w/ a grain of salt as you hide behind your own anonymity. Can’t you come up w/ anything more original? really? I wasn’t the one who started calling names but it does show your own maturity, I only wanted to see what you were doing to make a difference in the world you live in.

  8. Ruby Mayo permalink
    October 24, 2009 3:38

    I’ve stumbled on this one and I’ve to say that I was kinda surprised by how some people deal with criticisms… Or it was not even a criticism; it was a debate gone out of sync after a moronic member used unethical or below-the-belt means just to annoy or stop the critic. Well, one may say that the guy deserves it, but it’s not fair or even justifiable to resort to dirty tricks just to stop someone. In a supposedly rational facebook book, every member or a visitor at that must be guided by rational codes of conduct. Meaning, they must be guided by the rules of propriety. Is it proper or ethical to appropriate someone else’s identity just to stop or annoy him? Is it okay to resort to identity theft just to annoy someone? I find this incident really disturbing, because you can never claim you guys are rational or even lucid if you applaud or “like” such a pitiful act. guys in that group are applauding it. one member even said the critic deserves what happened to him. So as if they’re saying it’s ok to be unfair or use unfair methods to beat or hurt an opponent. It means there are no longer rules of the game. I didn’t find the critic utter insulting or demeaning words as to warrant the use of such an unethical method. It only means that it’s hard to argue with close-minded, rude and holier-than-thou people, well, particularly those who think they make sense…

  9. PJ Saad permalink
    November 4, 2009 3:38

    oh no! the other discussion spilled over on to this page!!

    • R.D. Tan permalink
      November 5, 2009 3:38

      “And yet, these Filipino socialists who benefit from our semi-free system have the guts to shout the virtues of human rights and freedom. Perhaps they forgot that their socialist dream rejects these cherished ideals which is only possible in a capitalist society.”

      Very true indeed! The militants are so loud about human rights and freedom yet their political dream, which is socialism/communism, rejects these cherished that only exists in a republican-capitalist government. It’s so sad that the people in that communist group who are applauding the impostor failed to see the evil flaw in their position. This socialist Celdran is fucking idiot who doesn’t now what he’s talking about. He really shares the stupid mentality of his followers who talk balderdash!

  10. PJ Saad permalink
    November 5, 2009 3:38

    I was just commenting on the poster that spilled over from the UAAP thread, w/c have been deleted/moved back to the correct page.

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